2025/26 David Moyes

[Moomin]

Ir is. But he has managed us by far the longest in the premier league era so that is a comment that is based upon a stat that needs to be a % loss rate on games played and compared to the rest of our managers. Having said that, his caution does my head in and guarantees days like today. If the other team has better players (mostly the rs do) then you need to ensure they do not score or go for the throat. At home we tend to be unsure because Davey is unsure.

I'm talking about all the clubs he has managed, not just Everton. His record for us is actually better compared to his other clubs.

 

[Zatara]

Think he wants to go home to Spain by the sound of it:

There’s only 20 PL jobs though, only a handful are available at any given time, and even less become available with owners who can back the manager in the transfer window.

We would be a massive pull to loads of managers if the vacancy became available. Come and manage at the new stadium with Pickford Branthwaite OBrien Ndiaye Garner KDH and young players like Dibling Rohl Armstrong George Alcaraz and by the way you’ll get over 100 mill most summer transfer windows.

They’d be queuing up.

I dont see the yanks punting him..

Armstrong & Dibling must be furious and I know @jceverton has said Armstrongs agent knows what tune Moyes plays.

If ever we point at foreign players like Rohl, Aznou, Alcaraz, Barry, Patterson not being developed and perhaps put blame on them.

Armstrong & Dibling just point the finger of blame at Moyes. Not to mention Iroegbunam who should have been on yesterday.

Its a HUGE risk to not develop younger players.

You remove Branthwaite out of the defence and we have zero u23 defenders in contention for a squad place with realistic ambition of playing.

We should be a big pull and sit in 10th position with ZERO player development and apparently our main target is a 30 year old winger on enormous wages.

Certainly doesnt look good.

 

[Bluerover]

Yeah, no, it's the fn derby. If their heads drop and they basically decide to sulk for the next 20 minutes, that's kinda on the manager, no? He picks the team, he picks the players who he thinks will best implement his plan during the match. If they disappear after a single fn goal against, that's an APPALLING mentality. Sunderland came back 3 times today and lost at the death. Did their heads drop because "oh, golly, someone scored against us, let's not do anything for 1/4 of the match"?

It is for a manager to motivate his/her employees. There should be a positive reaction to a adverse incident not heads dropping and giving up.

The second half was not acceptable from most of the team - two of the the subs were a disgrace in their performance. Not good enough and that's down to the manager selecting them.

 

[NathDogg]

Look, at least we are out of the relation mess this season so thanks for that Dave, but It’s his use of subs and squad that I just cannot understand this season, and his ostracising certain players even when they have really not done a bad job when they did play some minutes that’s just wrong.

Alcaraz has been injured, but he wasn’t really getting in the team before that, even when he’s done ok.

Aznou got us back into the cup game but hasn’t had a sniff since.

Patterson hasn’t let anyone down this season in the limited minutes he’s had, but he just sits on the bench all the time.

Rohl does well against Villa and ok against Bournemouth away but can’t get on at all since?!

Armstrong similar, played ok but then dumped.

Don’t think dibling has been given anything like a fair crack of the whip either, he’s been handled poorly, like the rest of the young players.

We were crying out for legs in the middle of the park yesterday and he watched the game unravel, doing nothing about it.

 

[Zatara]

The problem is that none of those players you mention are actually any good. Our only good signings last summer were Grealish until his injury, and Dewsbury-Hall who has been excellent

It's very clear at this point we didn't get the players the manager really wanted and we had to make do with players way down the list. Our recruitment last summer was as bad as any of the previous windows.

With respect and I really have no other way of saying this as you've repeated this same delusional nonsense all season.

Are you thick?

We were told the recruitment structure & we were told the peoples names and their roles.

Moyes came out himself with quotes on players. The athletic, bobble and others also posted about those players we signed being wanted by Moyes.

He clearly put those players names to Hammond who negotiated the deals and Kinnear signed off.

There was NO ONE ELSE involved in this as confirmed by Kinnear and Moyes.

Now, youve been told this multiple times across 10 or 11 months now. At some point people are going to ask if you're thick, stupid or just a wum.

Moyes had control of transfers at Sunderland which is why they signed our very own rejects.

Moyes had control of transfers at West Ham causing DOFs to be binned as he delivered on the pitch.

Moyes contract was withdrawn at West Ham as he had refused to sign it for months because he would not have control over transfers.

Knowing ALL of this AND being told this by the club, manager and media surely the penny will drop with you?

Now, beyond that.

How do you know the players arent good?

Moyes NEVER gives them a run of games. Even looking at Iroegbunam & Armstrong, theyre not rubbish are they?

Dropped with no explanation.

Dibling was quality for southampton, mismanaged by Moyes.

The list is endless and Aznou showed him right up. Then dropped.

Moyes is a good manager who cannot develop young players and is not interested in doing so.

As you say KDH & Grealish are Moyes types. Unwanted at their clubs, grateful to Moyes for pulling them off the scrapheap and easy to manage.

So don't leave the guy who was in charge of transfers, Moyes running the club. Keep hearing Moyes will make steady progress but reality is if you throw £100m up the wall every summer you will soon start going backwards.

Its utterly embarassing and pathetic the excuses posters make for Moyes.

Not Moyes fault Barrys crap.
-he signed him.
No he didnt
-erm, yeah he did for £27.5mil
Nah he wanted Delap
-Delap rejected Moyes
Yeah but Barry was way down the list
-we got him earlyish
No he wasnt a Moyes signing
-oh so who signed him then?
Must be Hammond
-Consultant Hammond?
Yeah
-Youre saying a consultant signed Barry?
He works for the club
-as an advisor, in a consultancy role.
Oh well, Kinnear then.
-you're saying the CEO signed Barry?
Yeah must have been
-So not the manager, not Moyes
Yeah definitely not Moyes
-wasnt Moyes who started him on a run?
Moyes gave him chances but didnt sign him.

Moyes signed Barry, gave him a run of games to get up to speed.

Moyes also signed Rohl but didnt give him games as he was injured. Last week also stated, and I paraphrase, that Rohl will "fall over alot".

After previously leaking out how great he was in training.

There is absolutely no way in hell that anyone else signed these players other than David Moyes.

 

[Saint Domingo]

You've never played professional sport and it shows.

Still waiting by the way.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

and you’re saying other peoples heads have fallen off.

I suppose you could have been a jockey because you do love being on a high horse

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

and you’re saying other peoples heads have fallen off.

I suppose you could have been a jockey because you do love being on a high horse

Still waiting.

Asked numerous times now to show where I lack patience with this side and you can only resort to insults.

 

[Zatara]

Beliefs doesn't really cut it. Moyes insisted Thelwell had to go because he wouldn't work with one. Purdy left because of Moyes's new approach. Moyes got his pal James Smith appointed to be Director of scouting and recruitment. The CEO and Moyes are both on record as saying he has the final say on all transfers. Not sure what more evidence anyone would require to come to the conclusion that all roads lead to Moyes.

He doesn't use them

Surely that's all the evidence we need that they weren't the players he wanted?

Moyes might well have eventually signed off on players but these were clearly not who he really wanted.

The problem is the recruitment team. Why were players like Barry and Dibling even under consideration for those sort of fees?

It's irrelevant because if you can't get your first choice you have to make sure you get a good second choice. The reality is that Moyes has got players before and then simply doesn't fancy them when he sees them up close or they won't/can't do exactly what he wants them to do.

Moyes appointed the recruitment team to replace Thelwell and Purdy. Thelwell/Purdy clearly didn't have a problem signing decent players for good fees, most of the team Moyes is playing are their signings. You can try and dress it up whatever way you want but ultimately Moyes is responsible for the summer transfers.

I dont think it's irrelevant

If the decision for the manager is between signing players well down your list or players you aren't totally sure on versus signing no one at all, then most managers if not all, will take a chance on the new signings.

We need to make sure out scouting and recruitment processes are working well before we even get to the final decision. We can't afford any more mistakes this summer because we need to score more goals.

Clearly the players that Moyes was targeting were never realistic targets, he admitted as much in the summer. As I said you are ignoring the simple fact that Thelwell and Purdy didn't have a problem recruiting decent players even though they literally had no budget which strongly implies that scouting and recruiting weren't a problem pre Moyes.

I really dont think our recruitment was good Pre Moyes either to be honest.

It was recruitment mistakes that got us into relegation trouble in the first place. It's been a big problem for probably 10 years now. We've signed so many bad players for big money.

Our recruitment in attacking positions has been absolutely hopeless ever since we sold Lukaku

Oh Tim, when i replied to your post earlier I hadnt realised that you were so far brainwashed.

Do you really think Moyes didnt sign these players?

The club told you.
Several people at the club told you.
The media told you.
Fans told you.

But YOU dont believe any of them.

Good for you.

Ffs

 

[Eggs]

….see Zat is still in his element .

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

….see Zat is still in his element

A couple of others too, like pigs in self wallowing .

 

[Zatara]

I'd agree pre Thelwell but I'm going to disagree about Thelwell/Purdy who had no budget and signed O'Brien, Ndiaye, Garner, Gueye, Tarkowski for buttons. He picked up Beto when he had to find a club who would sell him a striker and not accept payment for 12 months. Also there have been plenty of good players that he targeted that the managers didn't want and had to deal with interference from Kenwright and Moshiri. In the set up that Moyes has set up the success of that approach strongly depends on the manager having good judgement. I don't think Moyes does.

Problem pre Thelwell/Purdy definitely. I think considering the circumstances in which they operated by and large they were very good. Problem was you had to have Dyche agreeing on who to sign.

Who exactly are these people bringing names to Moyes? James Smith is Director of scouting and recruitment, appointed by Moyes, as he's worked with him for years. He's effectively taken over from Thelwell and Purdy. Moyes is making the decisions, they are just the wrong ones.

Well if Moyes insisted on getting rid of Thelwell and his right hand man Purdy walks because of the structure he wanted to put in place then clearly that responsibility lies with Moyes. The only thing i find bizarre is why you think last summer's disaster wasn't the likely outcome of Moyes's decisions.

I agree 100% and am amazed anyone can continue to invent scenarios where this isnt fact.

 

[Eggs]

I agree 100% and am amazed anyone can continue to invent scenarios where this isnt fact.

….for somebody who claims an encyclopaedic knowledge of football you really show no understanding of football.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Oh Tim, when i replied to your post earlier I hadnt realised that you were so far brainwashed.

Do you really think Moyes didnt sign these players?

The club told you.
Several people at the club told you.
The media told you.
Fans told you.

But YOU dont believe any of them.

Good for you.

Ffs

Just to summarise, I dont believe these players were anywhere near top of his targets list. And the fact he won't use them, and clearly doesn't rate some of them, is pretty strong evidence.

Moyes might have eventually signed off on players but clearly someone in the recruitment process is recommending them too. That's a problem too. We spent about 80m on 3 players who don't get close to the first team. My question is why were those players even on our targets?

No club is ever going to publicly have a manager come out and say a new signing wasn't who they wanted.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Still waiting.

Asked numerous times now to show where I lack patience with this side and you can only resort to insults.

What professional sport did you play that gives you such a better insight than everyone else into how to develop young PL players without actually playing them?

 

[Zatara]

That last half an hour was nothing short of an embarrassment.

"The players have been told they did great".

"We were up against a great team"

Moyes.