2025/26 David Moyes

I agree with your points but how do you build a squad when you don't play the players you've bought, whilst playing a 36 year old in a pivotal role and giving Keane 25 games at centre half whilst making one of your future centre halves play right back, where he isn't very good, not to mention the lack of playing time for Rohl, Dibling and Alcaraz. It's short term thinking of the kind which got us into a mess in the first place. Fingers crossed it's only for this season and he starts looking to the medium term in the summer.
Nailed it.
 
I agree with your points but how do you build a squad when you don't play the players you've bought, whilst playing a 36 year old in a pivotal role and giving Keane 25 games at centre half whilst making one of your future centre halves play right back, where he isn't very good, not to mention the lack of playing time for Rohl, Dibling and Alcaraz. It's short term thinking of the kind which got us into a mess in the first place. Fingers crossed it's only for this season and he starts looking to the medium term in the summer.
I pretty much agree with you. My main issue is with the lack of game time given to Dibling and the lack of a proper right back. A more offensive left back would be preferable behind Grealish/Ndaiye. He seems to massively rate Rohl - I think he will be properly intergrated into the team next season. Alcaraz should have been used more through the middle - he has been injured as well. Gueye has generally been very good again this season - I think he will start to be moulded into more of a squad player next season. Keane has been an excellent back up - but he does need to stay as that not starting ahead of someone like Branthwaite.

With Moyes it will be a gradual process and I would much prefer he made different decisions in certain aspects - painful at times in terms of it taking longer than it seemingly should, but he has shown both during his first stint at Everton and then at West Ham that he knows how to construct a good team.
 
We don't know . Beto was already here and Barry looked pretty good in La Liga. The right back situation has no clean hands . A disgraceful, historical f up.
With the players he has at his disposal, I think he's doing a great job . We can't play the school of science stuff when our best right back is also our best midfielder. Two forwards who aren't suited to the PL and one of our wide berths not as good as the other.
If Moyes is WHOLLY responsible for recruitment then he has made some errors but he's doing some excellent work in my opinion. We aren't easy to beat and we are not playing ugly football . We are compact ( mainly ) and slightly negative but a hell of a lot better to watch than gravel and gravy .
I seem to remember that Benitez signed Patterson and Mykolenko. Can spot a player can Rafael.
 
Nice to see the doom merchants warming up nicely, before a ball has even been kicked at the weekend.

Never change lads.
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Following on from the endless debates on net & total transfer spend & relative squad values it turns out, not unsurprisingly, that the players wage bill is the most appropriate measure to use to judge manager performance.
Below is an extract from the research carried nducted together with the teams current wage bills. Brentford is particularly interesting.

Research Extract
Table 2 shows that the strongest relationship measured by the correlation coefficient is between wages and points earned. The coefficient of 0.87 indicates a strong positive relationship between expenditure by clubs on players’ wages and overall points accumulated. While strong positive relationship exist between the two transfer variables the strength of the relationship is weaker in magnitude.
 

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Following on from the endless debates on net & total transfer spend & relative squad values it turns out, not unsurprisingly, that the players wage bill is the most appropriate measure to use to judge manager performance.
Below is an extract from the research carried nducted together with the teams current wage bills. Brentford is particularly interesting.

Research Extract
Table 2 shows that the strongest relationship measured by the correlation coefficient is between wages and points earned. The coefficient of 0.87 indicates a strong positive relationship between expenditure by clubs on players’ wages and overall points accumulated. While strong positive relationship exist between the two transfer variables the strength of the relationship is weaker in magnitude.
About as interesting as watching dog piss dry off a nettle!
 
it turns out, not unsurprisingly, that the players wage bill is the most appropriate measure to use to judge manager performance.

According to who? Those who keep saying they acknowledge through gritted teeth he's doing a good job whilst looking under any nook and cranny to find any minute angle to take a pop at our manager? Pablo just say you don't like him and stop lying.
 
Following on from the endless debates on net & total transfer spend & relative squad values it turns out, not unsurprisingly, that the players wage bill is the most appropriate measure to use to judge manager performance.
Below is an extract from the research carried nducted together with the teams current wage bills. Brentford is particularly interesting.

Research Extract
Table 2 shows that the strongest relationship measured by the correlation coefficient is between wages and points earned. The coefficient of 0.87 indicates a strong positive relationship between expenditure by clubs on players’ wages and overall points accumulated. While strong positive relationship exist between the two transfer variables the strength of the relationship is weaker in magnitude.

Spurs players pissing themselves.

That table can’t be true - I thought Liverpool were a registered charity mate.

I’m not sure the research says what’s spent in wages is the most appropriate measure of a managers performance mate. I believe what it says is what you spend in wages has a direct correlation to where you finish in the table via points accumulation.
 
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According to who? Those who keep saying they acknowledge through gritted teeth he's doing a good job whilst looking under any nook and cranny to find any minute angle to take a pop at our manager? Pablo just say you don't like him and stop lying.


See below as you asked & I didn’t make any observation on Moyes.

Determinants of Premier League Points
1/3/2017

By Stephen Brosnan

Recently, I discussed the relationship between the expenditure by Premier League clubs on players’ wages and the number of points accrued so far in the 2016-17 Premier League season. Following the post, I received some welcomed feedback (here) regarding the usefulness of wages as a measure of efficiency and alternative measures which may capture whether clubs spending is efficient relative to points earned. The purpose of this post is to address these issues by identifying alternative measures of Premier League teams’ efficiency in ‘acquiring’ points.

Table 1 shows the expenditure by Premier League clubs on wages and transfers (both total and net spend) for 2016-17 as well as points earned both in the current Premier League season and previous season. Points earned in 2015-16 are unavailable for the newly promoted teams – Middlesbrough, Burnley and Hull City.
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In Soccernomics, Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski use correlation analysis to measure the strength of the relationship between expenditure on wages and transfers and points earned by football clubs. In this post, I have used the same method to measure the strength of these relationships, as well as the relationship between points earned last year and points earned this year.

Table 2 shows the Pearson correlation coefficient for the relationship between various variables and points earned this season by Premier League clubs.
Picture
Table 2 shows that the strongest relationship measured by the correlation coefficient is between wages and points earned. The coefficient of 0.87 indicates a strong positive relationship between expenditure by clubs on players’ wages and overall points accumulated. While strong positive relationship exist between the two transfer variables the strength of the relationship is weaker in magnitude.

The weakest relationship exists between points won in the Premier League last season and points won this season. One possible reason for a weaker relationship using this measure is the noticeable distortions from the norm that occurred last season with Leicester winning their first ever league title while recent champions Chelsea having an abnormally poor season. This season has witnessed a more common league table with Chelsea sitting 8 points clear at the top of the league with Leicester flirting dangerously with relegation.
 
See below as you asked & I didn’t make any observation on Moyes.

Determinants of Premier League Points
1/3/2017

By Stephen Brosnan

Recently, I discussed the relationship between the expenditure by Premier League clubs on players’ wages and the number of points accrued so far in the 2016-17 Premier League season. Following the post, I received some welcomed feedback (here) regarding the usefulness of wages as a measure of efficiency and alternative measures which may capture whether clubs spending is efficient relative to points earned. The purpose of this post is to address these issues by identifying alternative measures of Premier League teams’ efficiency in ‘acquiring’ points.

Table 1 shows the expenditure by Premier League clubs on wages and transfers (both total and net spend) for 2016-17 as well as points earned both in the current Premier League season and previous season. Points earned in 2015-16 are unavailable for the newly promoted teams – Middlesbrough, Burnley and Hull City.
Picture
In Soccernomics, Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski use correlation analysis to measure the strength of the relationship between expenditure on wages and transfers and points earned by football clubs. In this post, I have used the same method to measure the strength of these relationships, as well as the relationship between points earned last year and points earned this year.

Table 2 shows the Pearson correlation coefficient for the relationship between various variables and points earned this season by Premier League clubs.
Picture
Table 2 shows that the strongest relationship measured by the correlation coefficient is between wages and points earned. The coefficient of 0.87 indicates a strong positive relationship between expenditure by clubs on players’ wages and overall points accumulated. While strong positive relationship exist between the two transfer variables the strength of the relationship is weaker in magnitude.

The weakest relationship exists between points won in the Premier League last season and points won this season. One possible reason for a weaker relationship using this measure is the noticeable distortions from the norm that occurred last season with Leicester winning their first ever league title while recent champions Chelsea having an abnormally poor season. This season has witnessed a more common league table with Chelsea sitting 8 points clear at the top of the league with Leicester flirting dangerously with relegation.
So its the opinion of someone I have never heard of from 9 years ago. Sound Pablo. Keep unearthing every stone.
 
Moyes always tended to overperform:

“Year after year, Everton finish above much richer clubs, including, deliciously, their local rivals Liverpool, whom they visit this Sunday. Everton currently stand sixth in the Premier League, one spot above Liverpool. They overachieve largely because of their intelligence. Their success suggests that other clubs aren’t using enough brainpower.

“Normally a club’s wage bill predicts its final league position: the more you spend on players, the better your team will be. Yet Everton, with about the Premier League’s 10th-highest wage bill, have finished eighth or better every year since 2007. That’s overachievement.”

 

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