2025/26 David Moyes

And he “might” be a success here if he came. Or he could sink like a stone like many do when they get a chance here. Martinez and Silva prime examples of mangers who couldn’t handle it in the end.

It’s all moot anyway as it would be very unlikely we’d be able to prise Iraola away.
Make your mind up, either he's not good enough to manage us or he's too good to manage us. Any managerial change is a risk, we have to weigh up the potential upsides and downsides. My personal view is that the ceiling for Iraola is high, and the downside is potential relegation struggle. With Moyes I feel the cautious nature of his management style means we're unlikely to get relegated and almost certain to never win a major trophy.
 
Make your mind up, either he's not good enough to manage us or he's too good to manage us. Any managerial change is a risk, we have to weigh up the potential upsides and downsides. My personal view is that the ceiling for Iraola is high, and the downside is potential relegation struggle. With Moyes I feel the cautious nature of his management style means we're unlikely to get relegated and almost certain to never win a major trophy.

Of course any change is a risk that’s obvious. The argument is ultimately why are you even talking about it? Why is it knawing at you and others? You need to better demonstrate why a change is needed. I’m sorry but “Iroala has Bournemouth playing better than us” is not a great starting point when they are currently below us in the table.
 
You seriously need help.

The absolute [Poor language removed] you spew out on a daily basis would put Thames Water to shame.

So Trump like in all of your inane ramblings.

Loving how Moyes is really boiling your piss. All because you want him to fail.

We're three points away from 12th place and you're shouting his name from the rooftops.

No wonder this club is all but finished as an elite club.

9 titles
5 FA Cups
1 ECWC

...and you're made up with a manager who has 47 points on the board and trying to fight off the likes of Sunderland, Brighton and Brentford.
 
Is that the same Gueye who's assisted in both of our last 2 games?


I loved Gueye in the last few seasons. I was always saying he's the brain of the team and that he saved our arses from relegation with his interceptions and tackles which were PL top %s. However, for most of this season he's looked a shadow of himself.

It can happen like that with older players and I think Gueye is in the process of a big decline. Iroegbunam is the coming force and we should be seeing him getting starts over Gueye now.
 
I like the tactics that have us 6 places above his cup winning team in the league myself.

Id rather have the cup he won - also, the board destabilised that club mid-season, so that's why they're below us...by a 'HUGE' 5 points...in a season when they play 2 games a week and travel over Europe.

Glasner > Moyes. Everyone sensible knows it.
 
We're three points away from 12th place and you're shouting his name from the rooftops.

No wonder this club is all but finished as an elite club.

9 titles
5 FA Cups
1 ECWC

...and you're made up with a manager who has 47 points on the board and trying to fight off the likes of Sunderland, Brighton and Brentford.
We’re also fighting Chelsea and the RS incase you didn’t notice, we’re 1 point behind the former and 5 behind the latter. You’re so determined to see us slip down the table just so you can sing and dance on Moyes it’s honestly disgraceful
 
I defend managers not financially backed and left with a mountain to climb with us dancing on the trap door...as any sane supporter would.

We have a manager who's come in and done ok but not exceptionally well having spent £110M on players last summer. At this stage we could still not only NOT qualify for Europe but also we might even fall into the bottom half of the PL...which would be appalling given the cash spent and the massive support in a new stadium.

I'm sorry if people feel offended at being called sycophants - but Moyes is a limited manager and there are many of us who demand a more tactically astute manager at this club to make the difference again, and then there's others who will take whatever Moyes serves up.

First of all, I think you're underestimating how little £110m is these days. Especially when pumped in to a squad that has had next to nothing spent on it for years and one which lost several players for nothing in the summer.

I'm not really offended, I just think it's a bit hypocritical Dave, seeing as you've made such a song and dance about the virtues of backing managers in the past, but it seems that's only the case when it suits your narrative...

I back any manager for their full, season. If he gets permanent the manager's job I'll do what I always do: never call for their dismissal in the first season.

You and a few others should try that instead of bellyaching about a manager for 7 months.


Exactly.

Imagine wanting an Everton manager to be a success?

Such people are dangerous cultists and must be attacked along with the unwanted manager.

These same people who profess to be the Praetorian Guard of Evertonians - the ones who represent the purist fan - wlll be praying for Everton losses on the pitch for some 'higher ideal'.

THAT is cultist behaviour.
 
We're three points away from 12th place and you're shouting his name from the rooftops.

No wonder this club is all but finished as an elite club.

9 titles
5 FA Cups
1 ECWC

...and you're made up with a manager who has 47 points on the board and trying to fight off the likes of Sunderland, Brighton and Brentford.
Nobody is “shouting his name from the rooftops” 🤣

Just happy with the improvements since he came in 15 months ago and we aren’t in a relegation scare again and, in with a chance of Europe.

You are making up fake scenarios to get all lathered up about, it’s absolutely comical to see you getting so bitter and twisted about it 🤣
 
We’re also fighting Chelsea and the RS incase you didn’t notice, we’re 1 point behind the former and 5 behind the latter. You’re so determined to see us slip down the table just so you can sing and dance on Moyes it’s honestly disgraceful


My point is that the sycophants are calling this season now when the hard yards are ahead.
 
We're three points away from 12th place and you're shouting his name from the rooftops.

No wonder this club is all but finished as an elite club.

9 titles
5 FA Cups
1 ECWC

...and you're made up with a manager who has 47 points on the board and trying to fight off the likes of Sunderland, Brighton and Brentford.

its the most competitive premier league in an age, if not ever

the only sides with any consistency are spurs, wolves and burnley, and thats of being pants
 
its the most competitive premier league in an age, if not ever

the only sides with any consistency are spurs, wolves and burnley, and thats of being pants


It's also one of the worst quality PL's in an age.

It's appalling. 2 teams are better than the rest...and they're not top quality either. There's never been a better time to sneak a Euro spot.
 
It's also one of the worst quality PL's in an age.

It's appalling. 2 teams are better than the rest...and they're not top quality either. There's never been a better time to sneak a Euro spot.

i don’t agree, the teams have never been fitter and more physical, or better drilled and i think that makes it hard

every player on the pitch can play and pass and resist the press, i remember us getting 4th with stubbs and weir clogging the ball in the air at every opportunity and big sam’s bolton being one of our big rivals

and because anyone can beat anyone and theres not 6 clear best sides as usual makes it feel weaker when i think its the opposite
 
Of course any change is a risk that’s obvious. The argument is ultimately why are you even talking about it? Why is it knawing at you and others? You need to better demonstrate why a change is needed. I’m sorry but “Iroala has Bournemouth playing better than us” is not a great starting point when they are currently below us in the table.
Bournemouth have sold almost an entire team of players to bigger clubs whilst Iraola has been there. They have a tiny ground and therefore operate on a budget about 50% of Everton, yet finish above us every season, so it would be interesting to see how Iraola would do given a decent budget, a few good existing players who won't be sold and a fan base of 55000.
 
Bournemouth have sold almost an entire team of players to bigger clubs whilst Iraola has been there. They have a tiny ground and therefore operate on a budget about 50% of Everton, yet finish above us every season, so it would be interesting to see how Iraola would do given a decent budget, a few good existing players who won't be sold and a fan base of 55000.

I would say our situation in the summer was much worse than Bournemouth’s. We needed well over 200 mill spending to put it right and we spent about 120 maybe? Barely scratches the surface these days. And it was a poor window all being said. A miss fire. Yesterday the only new player who started was KDH.

Had we brought in some full backs (the recruitment amnesia for these positions continues to baffle) and a decent striker in we would a fair few points better off and well clear of Bournemouth I reckon.
 
Bournemouth have sold almost an entire team of players to bigger clubs whilst Iraola has been there. They have a tiny ground and therefore operate on a budget about 50% of Everton, yet finish above us every season, so it would be interesting to see how Iraola would do given a decent budget, a few good existing players who won't be sold and a fan base of 55000.
I’m a big fan of Iraola as a manager. Moyesy’s done a great job, but if he was to step back in a year’s time and Iraola was still at Bournemouth, he’d be the perfect replacement imo. He actually plays in a way that would be great for us - no fannying around, brave, exciting and often direct.
 

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