2025/26 David Moyes

….look at KDH and Grealish.

Doucoure was a key player for Moyes last season but he said he needed better quality in possession, he lets Doucoure go and replaces him with KDH. I’d never have thought KDH would offer the same industry as Doucoure but he has and is a huge improvement in terms of quality in possession. I’d say our signing of the season, certainly a Moyes acquisition given what he said he needed.

Moyes wanted better quality in the top third and we got Grealish. Grealish said it was the discussions with Moyes that convinced him to join. A Moyes signing.

I don’t think we can separate those from the less successful. Moyes might not have identified Barry but I’d be sure he endorsed the signing after the player was recommended. Good and bad transfers, Moyes is accountable. Ultimately, though, he’s judged on how the team perform and given the significant improvement I doubt he’ll be under too much pressure.

Saying that, one or two significant improvements this summer could truly move us up a level.
Thought he wanted to keep Doucoure but Doucoure chose to not sign a new contract?
 
It's undeniable that Moyes has done a great job 2nd time around and probably deserves an extension to his contract.

However there's just something that I can't shake , that Moyes on a long term contract doesn't sit well with me for the future development of the team.

Can't explain it.
From my perspective it's because he came in as a bit of a fire fighting job and wasn't necessarily in the immediate thinking the Friedkin group.

He also has a tendency towards oven ready Premier league players and hasn't really integrated any of the 'project' signings from the summer. There's an argument that this approach has contributed towards West Hams decline since he left.

All that being said, he's done a great job here so far. I've said it before but the Friedkins through Angus Kinnear need to be clear about their strategy (really i'm talking about recruitment and sales) and Moyes needs to work within that. I'd be happy to give him a longer term contract on the basis that he had a longer term approach to squad building.
 
From my perspective it's because he came in as a bit of a fire fighting job and wasn't necessarily in the immediate thinking the Friedkin group.

He also has a tendency towards oven ready Premier league players and hasn't really integrated any of the 'project' signings from the summer. There's an argument that this approach has contributed towards West Hams decline since he left.

All that being said, he's done a great job here so far. I've said it before but the Friedkins through Angus Kinnear need to be clear about their strategy (really i'm talking about recruitment and sales) and Moyes needs to work within that. I'd be happy to give him a longer term contract on the basis that he had a longer term approach to squad building.

A couple of things; "wasn't necessarily in the immediate thinking the Friedkin group." (sic)

Are you sure he wasn't? I mean, the fact they gave him the job would suggest this is not even an educated guess.

Everybody likes oven ready prem players, if you can get them. Except for Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford, and two of those have countered that by getting really experienced prem players (Henderson, Milner, Welbeck) amongst the unknowns they like to buy. The RS just paid £135m for Isak.

Eze, Guehi, Semenyo, Rice, etc, etc. The list is endless, if you wanna go back long enough. Let's just take Ferguson at United as one example; Carrick, Berbatov, Cole, Ferdinand, Rooney, Tevez, Van Persie, Sheringham, Cantona.. and that's just off the top of my head, for one club and one
manager.

If you want Angus Kinnear to choose players over David Moyes, I don't know what to say. I'd rather the tail didn't wag the dog.
 
Dont know why the new contract cant wait until the season is over. All it took was a two game winning streak and all is well at Everton. Who knew??
If we’re going off the article then they are waiting until season is over.

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Dont know why the new contract cant wait until the season is over. All it took was a two game winning streak and all is well at Everton. Who knew??

It hasn't just taken a 2 game winning streak, has it though? It's an absolute turnaround of form, a monumental points tally that would probably survive TWO relegation battles... From a team that looked deep in the mire.

Why are you so bothered about our manager getting a new contract when we're actually doing quite well for a welcome change?
 
It hasn't just taken a 2 game winning streak, has it though? It's an absolute turnaround of form, a monumental points tally that would probably survive TWO relegation battles... From a team that looked deep in the mire.

Why are you so bothered about our manager getting a new contract when we're actually doing quite well for a welcome change?
4 or 5 weeks ago we were playing cbs at lb, cm at rb, Armstrong on left wing etc...dropping points at home to everybody and basically were a horrible spectacle to watch. Im glad we"re are playing better in the last two games...not going to properly adjudicate what team we are until the end of the season...sorry that seems to upset some.
 
4 or 5 weeks ago, blah, blah, last year we were staring at a relegation battle, an unfinished stadium, and an absentee owner.

Me and many others are just happy to be playing at our wonderful new home, with a good manager, and perhaps a bit of money to spend.

Onwards and upwards. I'd trust David Moyes to spend my money on footballers before Angus Kinnear.

Thankfully, Angus wants no part in this debate. He'll defer to David.
 
4 or 5 weeks ago, blah, blah, last year we were staring at a relegation battle, an unfinished stadium, and an absentee owner.

Me and many others are just happy to be playing at our wonderful new home, with a good manager, and perhaps a bit of money to spend.

Onwards and upwards. I'd trust David Moyes to spend my money on footballers before Angus Kinnear.

Thankfully, Angus wants no part in this debate. He'll defer to David.
Congrats. Its a forum. People have different opinions, blah blah:)
 
Not Moyes' biggest fan, but it makes sense to give him a new deal. Players will what to know what they are signing up for. And, tbf, he has earnt a new deal.

For me though there should be 2 caveats.
1) Proper succession planning- if the manager the hierarchy really want beccomes available sooner, the club should not be afraid to move and get them. Likewise, if an unbelievable candidate becomes available the club should move for them - like the opportunity the RS had when they got Klopp.

2) He should NOT be given greater say on recruitment. We do need to be buying talented young players (and giving them opportunities when possible). Nothing wrong with signing players in an older age bracket, but they need to have the same parameters applied as the likes of KDH and Grealish- undeniably excellent players, who elevate the level of the team.

Where the rest of the board need to stand up to Moyes is over signing the likes of Soucek. Moyes and poor older players as safety blankets is one of his biggest flaws. If the club stop him from doing this, we'll be fine.
Plus a bit more entertainment in our play last last week's game v Chelsea- he needs the now financial backing from the new owners & spend it more wisely & the blues will be on the up & up ;)
 
I wouldn't be thinking about giving him a new contract yet.

A good end to the season we could finish 6-7, a poor end and we could finish 11-12, which imo absolutely wouldn't be worthy of a new deal.
Works for Moyes too, most likely ask for more the higher we finish.

Ownership could be more than happy where he has got Everton already, they most likely had assessment done by someone independent on where the squad should finish in league.

And with rumour new contract is incoming I dare say Moyes has exceeded that assment already, from relegation favourites to European hopefuls in one season.

As Coleman says, its Moyes constant positivity in wanting Everton to finish for Europe football has changed the entire narrative of what the club had become.
 

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