Yeah I should have clarified really that it would apply whoever was the manager, not just to Moyes. Whoever is in charge, we need to ensure that they're given a squad of players they're going to use, there's no point in us recruiting a load of exciting attacking players if we're going to have a manager who prioritises defensive solidity and keeping the shape and the same applies in reverse.There is a further alternative
And there lies the issue as many have been adamant that Moyes must have signed off on all players recruited while he's been in charge but if hes not playing them then the question is why i thought McNeil had a good game Saturday don't get me wrong but why bring a winger in as of George and not play him
It's a tough one, all the noises out of the club are that he is signing off on them so you kind of have to believe that's the case, although it's obviously possible that the club is mandating that X percentage of the players we bring in have to be under 23 or whatever, so he's signing off on what he believes are the best options out of the pool he's picking from, but they still aren't actually what he wants. I think it's worth remembering though that he definitely had full control of transfers when he was here last time and it wasn't unheard of for him to bring players in who he then didn't really use, or certainly didn't use in the way you would have assumed was the plan to begin with.
It's not just being good at their jobs though, that's what i'm saying. Being good at their jobs is identifying and recruiting good players, regardless of anything else. If they're signing players without any input from the manager it's a lot more than just being 'good' at their jobs, it's about absolutely nailing every aspect of it so that not only are the players they bring in good, they also align perfectly with what the manager wants from a player (in terms of attitude, skillset, workrate, tactical awareness etc). We're not the only club with the type of issue i'm talking about, look at Villa bringing in the likes of Elliott, Sancho and Guessand who Emery clearly just hasn't fancied, Newcastle signing Woltemade for huge money and then seemingly having no idea what type of player they actually want him to be, Forest spending an absolute fortune in the summer on a load of players who don't always make matchday squads and in some cases have already left. Like I said, I agree with the theory of it but you do have to be careful because ultimately picking the team is based entirely on subjectivity so if the one picking the team isn't having any say on who he's actually picking from it can very easily go badly wrong.
You wouldn't if it was your money.
Nah I don't agree with that. A close season poll on here had 90% of people saying they expected a top 10 finish, and for good reason. Lower mid table is where we've finished for the last 2 years, it will have been a very poor season if we end up 12th or 13th again this year considering the difference in investment and just the obvious improvement to the level of the squad from the last couple of years.
I think you’d be laughed at because Jose has a more recent record of failure everywhere he’s been including in the premier league. Moyes did a good job at West Ham pretty recently and did an excellent job last year. But you do you.
This is it, he may have final sign of but he doesn't have full control. I assume, based on what happened in the summer, he would have been given parameters of signings (perhaps spend X on under 23 players, Y on prime players etc) and will need to operate within those.
That's kind of what I mean by disagreeing with your original statement though, we can't really say it only applies because Moyes has done such an amazing job because in reality it's just the way the league is this season - even if we were currently 14th we'd still be thinking we had a shot at Europe because the gap is only 6 points to 7th, but being 14th would mean we'd actually gone backwards from the last 2 seasons in terms of league position so couldn't really be argued to be progression. Generally speaking if you're in that midtable bracket you're not a million miles away from the possibility of Europe (depending on which position would secure it obviously).
