2025/26 David Moyes

As Nymz said, I don’t pay any attention to net spend figures because even that is all dependent on what you’ve spent and who you’ve bought previously. The thing that kept Newcastle’s net spend down last summer was the fact they sold a player for £130m, but they spent about £65m to bring that player in a few years ago. Do you see us spending £65m on a player any time soon? Because that’s the level we’re looking to compete with. If we sold Branthwaite last summer for £70m our net spend would’ve been lower, but our performances would hardly have been different because he’s been out injured all season anyway. Net spend is just about book balancing and complying with financial rules and not relevant to the improvement of a squad.

£100m is the absolute bare minimum amount we need to spend in the summer if we want to have any chance of improving on our current league position, when I look at the teams around us and what they’ve spent/will spend.
How we spend it is the main part.
2 X £50M?
5 X £20M?
?????????

And most important value for money, aka, no £35Million Diblings
 
But that's literally the whole point? We haven't been spending that money so it seems like a lot to people because it's way more than they're used to, that's why they're talking about it. You're just hammering home the point while suggesting you're refuting it.
Well, I did stay it's still not a lot.
 
As Nymz said, I don’t pay any attention to net spend figures because even that is all dependent on what you’ve spent and who you’ve bought previously. The thing that kept Newcastle’s net spend down last summer was the fact they sold a player for £130m, but they spent about £65m to bring that player in a few years ago. Do you see us spending £65m on a player any time soon? Because that’s the level we’re looking to compete with. If we sold Branthwaite last summer for £70m our net spend would’ve been lower, but our performances would hardly have been different because he’s been out injured all season anyway. Net spend is just about book balancing and complying with financial rules and not relevant to the improvement of a squad.

£100m is the absolute bare minimum amount we need to spend in the summer if we want to have any chance of improving on our current league position, when I look at the teams around us and what they’ve spent/will spend.
This. If we have a net spend of 100+ each of the the next 5 years, that's a lot.

Acquiring assets shouldn't be looked at as a one year or one window expenditure, financially.
 
What unbelievable nonsense.

The reason all the other managers didn't win at these grounds is also Moyes' fault.

These are all very normal reactions to losing to late goals away at the league leaders.
Nope just a reaction to this below. I thought we played ok against Arsenal but its the same old story with Moyes.

David Moyes has now won just 𝐎𝐍𝐄 of his 77 Premier League away games against Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea: ✅ 1 win 🤝 21 draws ❌ 55 losses :coffee:

Its all Betos and Barrys fault for being crap, BTW Moyes was here when we signed Barry.

Just to add the mighty Sean Dyche has won the same amount against the big 6 away with Notts Forest. He was there for about 4 months.
Hurzeler has double the amount and has been in the league for not even two seasons.
 
Nope just a reaction to this below. I thought we played ok against Arsenal but its the same old story with Moyes.

David Moyes has now won just 𝐎𝐍𝐄 of his 77 Premier League away games against Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea: ✅ 1 win 🤝 21 draws ❌ 55 losses :coffee:

Its all Betos and Barrys fault for being crap, BTW Moyes was here when we signed Barry.

Just to add the mighty Sean Dyche has won the same amount against the big 6 away with Notts Forest. He was there for about 4 months.
Hurzeler has double the amount and has been in the league for not even two seasons.
Have either of the two managers you’ve referenced ever took over a club that annually faces the drop and made them top 6 regulars with a very limited budget under the stewardship of Bill Kenwright or similar?

Moyes took over Everton in 01/02 when we were on the verge of relegation and left us frustrated with missing out on top 4, he’s again come in where we haven’t finished top half for half a decade an after a weekend loss we are still top half with 8 games to go.

There’s not a fan on here that thinks he’s a long term solution, but Brighton has gone backwards under their manager and ultimately after doing a decent job at Burnley, Dyche was sacked when they were certain to be relegated, some absolute nobody took over and they won 3 on the bounce and almost survived but didn’t.

As said, Moyes isn’t a longer term manager for Everton, but he’s done a very good job AGAIN for us.

It’s weird that you would seemingly swap some away wins at top 4 clubs for what Burnley and Brighton are currently doing.
 
Have either of the two managers you’ve referenced ever took over a club that annually faces the drop and made them top 6 regulars with a very limited budget under the stewardship of Bill Kenwright or similar?

Moyes took over Everton in 01/02 when we were on the verge of relegation and left us frustrated with missing out on top 4, he’s again come in where we haven’t finished top half for half a decade an after a weekend loss we are still top half with 8 games to go.

There’s not a fan on here that thinks he’s a long term solution, but Brighton has gone backwards under their manager and ultimately after doing a decent job at Burnley, Dyche was sacked when they were certain to be relegated, some absolute nobody took over and they won 3 on the bounce and almost survived but didn’t.

As said, Moyes isn’t a longer term manager for Everton, but he’s done a very good job AGAIN for us.

It’s weird that you would seemingly swap some away wins at top 4 clubs for what Burnley and Brighton are currently doing.
Im not saying I would take their managers im saying stop making excuses for Moyes (Not you but in general) who's had 77 attempts to win away and has won 1.
He doesn't try to win at these grounds and that's my point, if he did he would have had more than 1 win in his career spanning over 20 years.

He has done a very good job since coming back im not denying that but I don't think he is the man to take us further than where we are now because of the above, he will always be an underdog manager. That's what he is and that's fine but don't expect consistency or silverware (Don't come at me with European Zingari league trophy), just expect a safe pair of hands that's it.

He has got us in a healthy position for someone else to take over and take us to the next level.
 
Im not saying I would take their managers im saying stop making excuses for Moyes (Not you but in general) who's had 77 attempts to win away and has won 1.
He doesn't try to win at these grounds and that's my point, if he did he would have had more than 1 win in his career spmanningover 20 years.

He has done a very good job since coming back im not denying that but I don't think he is the man to take us further than where we are now because of the above, he will always be an underdog manager. That's what he is and that's fine but don't expect consistency or silverware (Don't come at me with European Zingari league trophy), just expect a safe pair of hands that's it.

He has got us in a healthy position for someone else to take over and take us to the next level.
So essentially you’re attacking Moyes for not winning away at top teams and not the points that he manages to amass? Fine. But recent net spend shows that Everton are 18th in the PL over last 5 years and his first tenure was under Kenwright where we as a fanbase use “net spend” so much we were mocked about it by rival fans.

Of all the times for Moyes to rejoin he has rejoined at a time where only 2 of the current PL teams have spent more than us in the last 1/2 decade.

If you put Lukaku or Yakubu up front for Everton on Saturday we would’ve won, but he has the strikers he does and he has the full backs he does. I know your point is a broader one than just one game, but I guess, so is mine. Moyes took over a dreadful team, that I think Walter Smith did an “ok” job with and left to all 4 stands applauding him despite going to United. He’s come in again after us being a bottom half team for last 1/2 decade and has us 8th currently after a weekend loss. I’m not saying we will finish 8th but if we did it would be 5 places better than anything we’ve mustered in the last 5 years and would represent progress.
 
Fair enough, agree with pretty much all of that.

What I will say is I think the money we spent last summer could and should have been spent better. I don’t think we’ve got value for money out of a single signing apart from KDH. I’ve been consistent in my opinion that we had a poor window and that’s why I think we need to spend the bare minimum amount again this coming summer to correct it. With the recruitment team being fully in place since September there’s no excuses.
Would you be happy to trust Moyes with new money to spend next season, I wouldn't, especially when we have so little to spend.
 
Would you be happy to trust Moyes with new money to spend next season, I wouldn't, especially when we have so little to spend.

We have a full recruitment structure in place so there’s no reason why we should be letting the manager dictate our transfer policy, because if we do that then why are we even paying a recruitment team’s salaries? If Moyes doesn’t like the fact that he isn’t in charge of recruitment because it isn’t 2006 anymore then he knows where the door is.
 


It may be the opposite…Mr Barry will send Dave packing…
Huu
Have either of the two managers you’ve referenced ever took over a club that annually faces the drop and made them top 6 regulars with a very limited budget under the stewardship of Bill Kenwright or similar?

Moyes took over Everton in 01/02 when we were on the verge of relegation and left us frustrated with missing out on top 4, he’s again come in where we haven’t finished top half for half a decade an after a weekend loss we are still top half with 8 games to go.

There’s not a fan on here that thinks he’s a long term solution, but Brighton has gone backwards under their manager and ultimately after doing a decent job at Burnley, Dyche was sacked when they were certain to be relegated, some absolute nobody took over and they won 3 on the bounce and almost survived but didn’t.

As said, Moyes isn’t a longer term manager for Everton, but he’s done a very good job AGAIN for us.

It’s weird that you would seemingly swap some away wins at top 4 clubs for what Burnley and Brighton are currently doing.
Top 6 regulars?
 

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