He's always been Moyes first.
He once got fed up of Kenwright one summer was saying all things in press conferences... got handed a bumper new deal and his tone changed dramatically.
He's always been Moyes first.
He once got fed up of Kenwright one summer was saying all things in press conferences... got handed a bumper new deal and his tone changed dramatically.
We tried for him and he pretended to take a break from football so he didn't have to take us on.
We would have hounded him out after the 1st 5 games without a win this season and we all know it.
We will be getting better, much better, but now is not the time whilst we are in transition.
Could not disagree with this more tbh.
Myko, Gueye, Tarkowski and probably Keane will be bombed out of the team/squad at the first opportunity by any new manager with a modicum of sense and/or eyes. Only at that point will we then start building a CB partnership of JOB and JB which should be happening now, or giving Aznou some minutes which should be happening now, or playing Armstrong (or Rohl) centrally which should be happening now, and giving Dibling time to find his feet which should be happening now.
He is actively holding us back from building our team for the future IMO.
I get peoples frustration at the line ups and having square pegs in round holes etc I think Moyes is trying to get his best players on the pitch at the same time almost regardless of position.
The weird thing has been when Patterson has played we do look more balanced, he played well in the last game he played and hasnt been seen since, same for Rohl. Aznou had a great little cameo against Sunderland and has been omitted from the squad, looks like Alcaraz was also taken out of the squad last night as well. All feels a bit strange.
On the other hand though we have been so desperate just to have a season where we can take stock and build without the fear of relegation. Most of the signings we have made are for the future and not just the here and now. Some have shown they need some time but have already been written off by sections of the fan base.
If someone had said going into March we'd be 9th and 11 points off 4th at the start of the season we would have have broken their hands off.
I think we can be frustrated with things but also be at peace that we are moving in the right direction and that money will be available once again to try and push on further.
The weird thing has been when Patterson has played we do look more balanced, he played well in the last game he played and hasnt been seen since, same for Rohl. Aznou had a great little cameo against Sunderland and has been omitted from the squad, looks like Alcaraz was also taken out of the squad last night as well. All feels a bit strange.
On the other hand though we have been so desperate just to have a season where we can take stock and build without the fear of relegation. Most of the signings we have made are for the future and not just the here and now. Some have shown they need some time but have already been written off by sections of the fan base.
If someone had said going into March we'd be 9th and 11 points off 4th at the start of the season we would have have broken their hands off.
I think we can be frustrated with things but also be at peace that we are moving in the right direction and that money will be available once again to try and push on further.
Just watched his dour faced interview. Claiming we made chances in the second half when in reality we struggled to create any clear chances in 90 minutes.
Blames the players for conceding a goal on the counter attack and claims they should have been more aware of that- ignoring the fact we’ve let loads of goals in on the counter attack at home and he insists on picking 2 centre backs who are painfully slow.
Claims were having a good season overall, even through we’ve only won 4 home games.
Makes a bizarre statement that we miss James Garner in the middle of the pitch, seemingly forgetting that he picked him to play there.
Zero responsibility taken again for his team selection and tactics. Get him gone.
Blames the players for conceding a goal on the counter attack and claims they should have been more aware of that- ignoring the fact we’ve let loads of goals in on the counter attack at home and he insists on picking 2 centre backs who are painfully slow.
Claims were having a good season overall, even through we’ve only won 4 home games.
Makes a bizarre statement that we miss James Garner in the middle of the pitch, seemingly forgetting that he picked him to play there.
Zero responsibility taken again for his team selection and tactics. Get him gone.
Toffe3m4n
Player Valuation: £80m
You literally said it - we could be knocking at the top 4 had he not sh*t the bed at home..
The team that beat us last night are doing just that and they're super average these days.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
The issues with Moyes are nothing to do with being 9th, have not seen anyone moaning about where we are in the table but we have benefitted from an awful PL this year at times. The issues with Moyes are more about how we/goes about his business. The game has bypassed him in recent years. Also my point was more a general thing and not specifically aimed at you btw, apologies if you thought it was.
This is the question I am asking. People are saying that all the players are terrible, we have no strikers, we have no creativity, we have no pace BUT Moyes should have us pushing for Champions league
Barry wasn't (and arguably still isn't completely) ready and was given a run. Armstrong was on the verge of being booted back to Preston but is now being tested as our solution on the left?!
One of the good things about being mid-table with no more cup games is the freedom to try new things. We won't go down and we seem determined not to trouble Europe so if now isn't the time to get Aznou, Dibling, George et al some minutes and confidence going into next year, when is?
I don't think it's a massively difficult or controversial concept to acknowledge that you might think 9th isn't an unacceptable position in itself, but that the signs for future improvement aren't great and the football is poor to watch. We don't have to be completely binary in our views do we?
Ragnar
Player Valuation: £8m
Pretty much says the same thing for George not starting. It’s a hard listen.
We haven’t won a home game in 3 months. Not Everyone is hounding Moyes out. He also won just 7 home games in 27. This notion we’d hound a mananger out for a bad run is just a pathetic excuse. Ste Kelly on a view from the bullens another Moyes fan boy, says if we had Iraola we would have thrown him in the Mersey if he had gone 3 months without a win, like he has this season at Bournemouth. This is the Bournemouth, that have lost 4 of their best players this season, play much better football, he’s not afraid to play you youngsters and they now sit above us in the table
