2025/26 David Moyes

[Bedfordblue]

Because cup upsets never happen

 

[Bluepablo]

Here's a source I think we can agree is reliable. The International Centre for Sports Studies (CIES) https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost513

You have to filter to "ENG". We are ranked 14th according to this. Unfortunately it is Euros but they're Swiss so that's what you get.

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So are Grealish & Rohl factored in.

 

[Efcjake]

Seem to happen quite often with Moyes.

And most of the other managers we had since his first spell

 

[Efcjake]

So are Grealish & Rohl factored in.

Since it doesn't say 100 million for our highest transfer fee I'm going to guess...no.

 

[Bluepablo]

I thought Dyche did a great job in his first season & half given the circumstances. Think he was done for that last season, not surprisingly as the pressures must have been immense, imagine being known as the manager who took Everton down.

Thought Moyes did great & a lot better than I thought in the rest of last season.


Not sure why one has to be great & the other crap, they both suited our circumstances at that time.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Would you rather finish 4th or win the Premier League?

If you genuinely think that anyone would argue that then your even dumber than I thought.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

And yet we got knocked out of both cups by squads less valuable than ours according to them numbers.

Another dumb comment. Well done.

 

[evertony]

Can this thread quit masquerading as University Challenge and get back to deciding whether ginger bullocks is Poundland Pep or Aldi Allardyce please.

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

Forest doing some brilliant succession planning. All out attack Ange - all out defence Dyche - mad as a box of frogs Pereira.

 

[Igrok]

All that to say, taking the 14th most valuable squad to 8th place is a very good job.

Cements lucky plucky Everton mentality…which Moyes was best at…but Brentford, Bournemouth can do the same now

 

[Efcjake]

Cements lucky plucky Everton mentality…which Moyes was best at…but Brentford, Bournemouth can do the same now

Yes, they've spent about as much on their squads as we have.

Fact is, if we want to put distance between us and them we are going to have to spend better or more.

 

[Moomin]

If you genuinely think that anyone would argue that then your even dumber than I thought.

And yet you think that Moyes finishing 4th was a greater achievement than Leicester winning the league.

Your words not mine yet dummy.

 

[Moomin]

Another dumb comment. Well done.

Still can't beat this dumb comment.

It's not demonstrably untrue at all. The great Carlo Ancelloti had us in 10th. Mourinho and Conte both flopped at Spurs with far greater resources. Moyes took us to fourth. Probably the worst squad to ever finish fourth in this league having finished 17th the year before. I don't there is an equivalent achievement in premier league history. Leicester won the league but they actually two world class players and a top quality striker. We had Marcus Bent up front.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Forest doing some brilliant succession planning. All out attack Ange - all out defence Dyche - mad as a box of frogs Pereira.

Potter next

 

[Tom Hughes]

I mean he’s categorical stated he has final say, so some of the rationale for transfers lies with him surely?
So even allowing for getting some wrong, shear neglect to strengthen in some obvious positions warrants some scrutiny?

Yes, but that is also still subject to the overall decision-process, availability and budget. Having the "final say" can still be very limited if it is others who prioritise the initial selection process, or if there is insufficient funding..... or if you're a club that has been languishing near the bottom, with no European football to offer etc. Bottom line is, he turned around last season and has had one summer transfer window, and we're currently 8th with a small unballanced squad that is valued about 14th (valued about 19th last season), after we had the second lowest net spend in the previous 5 yrs..... I'd say that we're very much still in the recovery/transition period.