2025/26 David Moyes

For all the 'he got the team wrong', I thought we were the better team outside of a mad 10 minutes.

I'm not sure I'd be laying criticism at the managers door for that.

More broadly, if we're criticising the managers failings, we also need to acknowledge that most on here are frustrated we haven't taken a chance to go 6th, when in recent seasons we've been battling against relegation.

Its more that he's got a full squad bar Grealish and yet we're struggling at home still.

But we all know Moyes works best when we're the threadbare underdogs
 
Very much perspective that’s required this morning.

I do wish he’d take the handbrake off more at home. But equally, he’s not happy with the squad he has, he clearly doesn’t have a “we’re at home and we’ll go for it,” line up that he trusts.

That problem manifests chiefly at fullback - and it’s also hampered by our lack of a consistent striker.

It’s galling, but I think fair enough.

Years of neglect meant there was too much to do last summer than could possibly be done.

This summer has to be fullbacks and a striker, doesn’t it?
 
Yes we should should have been 2-0 and also had a few other half decent chances, but we didn’t and like we seen v wolves and west ham at 1-0, they made subs like Bournemouth did and the game started to change. Before the goal they could have easily had a penalty. We all knew a west ham goal was coming and a wolves goal and the same last night.

Moyes’s go to sub is go defensive once we come under a bit of pressure, ok a lot of managers do the same, but as Armstrong was waiting they scored and yet made the same sub. So
Was Moyes happy at 1-1 that point ???

Nah, not having that. I was watching the game and before and after that penalty shout they did not look that dangerous. Your anti Moyes glasses were probably looking at it more negatively than most, maybe even willing them to score so you could have a go at him ;).

One very good cross that still should have been dealt with better and one very strange decision by Pickford and they are suddenly ahead. Then a man sent off and all the players all over the place. They then went full on defensive (strangely in my opinion) and we just couldn't create that one great chance, or take any half chances.

I don't think he would have been happy with 1-1. It should have been a quick change of plans, but he didn't. Although, I don't think it directly led to them dominating the rest of the 2nd half though. As said, after that mad 5 minutes, the game went to us dominating and Bournemouth just hoofing it no-one for the last 15 minutes. Armstrong, Ndiaye & Garner were popping up all over the pitch, so it was strange. Bournemouth ultra defensive tactic led to those players, maybe along with Dewsbury-Hall floating, trying to move them about a bit more.
 
Nah, not having that. I was watching the game and before and after that penalty shout they did not look that dangerous. Your anti Moyes glasses were probably looking at it more negatively than most, maybe even willing them to score so you could have a go at him ;).

One very good cross that still should have been dealt with better and one very strange decision by Pickford and they are suddenly ahead. Then a man sent off and all the players all over the place. They then went full on defensive (strangely in my opinion) and we just couldn't create that one great chance, or take any half chances.

I don't think he would have been happy with 1-1. It should have been a quick change of plans, but he didn't. Although, I don't think it directly led to them dominating the rest of the 2nd half though. As said, after that mad 5 minutes, the game went to us dominating and Bournemouth just hoofing it no-one for the last 15 minutes. Armstrong, Ndiaye & Garner were popping up all over the pitch, so it was strange. Bournemouth ultra defensive tactic led to those players, maybe along with Dewsbury-Hall floating, trying to move them about a bit more.
It’s more than 5 minutes and in that time they had the pen shout , 2 goals and it would probably have been 3-1 had O’Brien not brought him down. And maybe they were happy to soak up
Pressure against 10 men. Apart from
A couple of headers what did we create.

Last night may not hand been solely on
The manager. But the home form falls at his door, he’s getting praise to
the hilt for the away form, but surely if last night was on the players. Why isn’t the away form down to the players.
2 points, from Brentford, wolves, Leeds and Bournemouth is not good enough and a cup defeat to
Sunderland. The away form is keeping him in the job
 
We're still a pragmatic, % football side. That doesn't lend itself to home performances.

Sprinkle in a club record spend, (before we even factor in Rohl's £17/18m fee obligation, Jack Grealish’s wage etc), a more capable manager and better/more players and - ta-dah - we turn a few more draws into wins.

We've earned the points the previous 2 seasons to finish 12th and 13th.

It's looking 7th to 12th this season. The margins are very slim - 3 results from being a tremendous season to being a terrible one.

The likes of Mykolenko, Gana, Barry (right now) are clearly not top half players. They don't get in any other team in that top 10. O'Brien doesn't start right back for any of them.

Address chronic lack of balance mainly at full back, pace and a striker.

Balance is frustrating when we're playing players out of position, we have a natural right back (Patterson), we have natural left wingers (not Armstrong), Dewsbury-Hall is never a number 10.

I'd like to see Gana dropped. We don't need Gana when we have Garner. Drop Dewsbury-Hall into a number 8. I'd like to see Branthwaite and O'Brien at centre half, with Patterson at right back. I'd like to see the likes of Alcaraz, Rohl and Patterson keeping their place, form, over favourites when they've had their best games in an Everton shirt, in an Everton win, rather than being immediately dropped.
 
And how many were on
That poll

You're the one who insisted that "more than half" are anti-Moyes.... based on no poll whatsoever? I can assure you that the vast majority of fans at Fulham were definitely not anti-Moyes.

Fact is, he inherited a team that has only just avoided relegation several times and had little to no investment for years.... we're second bottom in the net spend league table of the last 5 yrs and about 15th in terms of squad value..... yet he's brought them to the point of actually challenging teams that have spent fortunes in the same time. I get the frustration when the obvious weaknesses of our largely unbalanced squad are exposed.... but to fail to see the progress under Moyes is bewildering. We're still several player off where we need to be, yet still only 2 points behind the current champions who've spent absolute fortunes just reinforcing. Did anyone think we were European certainties this year? Really?
 

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