Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Yes I think so.
Well there's the new motto sorted. Everton: 'Alright' since 2025.
It was a simple post..
Forget about it, i ain't getting in to debate with you if you're already that heated over it..
I answered your question and you told me to read it again? I'm just telling you if the parameters aren't what they appear to be - 'would you be patient enough to not want the manager sacking if he'd won us a trophy and taken us to 2nd within his first 3 years' - then I need you to explain what the question actually is, I don't really see how that's me causing a problem to be honest but there we are.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £60m
Ive said it many times i like iraola. They spend money as well btw. Their keeper cost 28m. Centre half diakate was 35m. Their forward cost 40m. Its not like they sell and go and replace with free transfers.
The point being made and people can deny it as much as they like is if he was at Everton and hadnt won a game in 12 he'd have this fanbase on his back.
Also goes a bit deeper than just the manager imo. The clubs set up matters. Oliver glasner is another one who's had some terrible spells at palace. But he walked into a decent time at palace for recruitment. He leaves in the summer. Im not convinced the next manager is as lucky walking in to the likes of brennan johnson and strand larsen.
we've obviously improved a bit with the squad of recent times. But certain managers need a different set up to thrive more. Remember when bielsa was being linked with Everton and he took one look at the Everton squad and said i cant do much there. They are not my sort of players. I admired him a lot for that.
You've got to start somewhere but as someone just pointed out. Iraola would have got slaughtered here if he'd started the same as he did at bournemouth. I still remember him coming to Goodison and getting beat 3-0 by Sean Dyche. Everton fans would have hit the roof at the defending that day at Goodison.
There's a few managers id take and iraola is one of them but i also think clubs like bournemouth recruit players who suit the managers they employ.
Dunce dyche is a fraud
We've had years of being ran into the ground were now getting stability
New owners new ground
And a manager giving us stability
People are forgetting the the abyss we've been in
And think it should all be done overnight
Which clubs fans would have Moyes back. Not even West Ham’s despite their paralous position. Moyes /Kenright did a great job on managing our aspirations. Good times & be grateful
They've chased how many managers
And spent how much it's BS that they wouldn't have moyes now and being stable
Maybe I didn't outline everything in the post, I thought it was pretty self explanatory.
No chance was I posting some kind of rules and regulations, it wouldn't be a simple post than..
We would be starting at a different Base point than Arsenal.
God, your confusing me now.
See, this is why it would be a good thread, cos it would be all out warfare from the start.
No chance am I creating it tho
Yeah that’s all I’m saying, I’m not trying to be awkward just saying it’s impossible to answer a question without knowing what the question actually is! Would a manager get patience here if we were boring to watch and finishing 10th every year, probably not. Would they get patience if we were qualifying for the CL, yes. That’s why I said in the first place there needs to be context, the answer depends on what the question is.
Well there’s only 80-100 managers have been in charge of 100 or more EPL games, guess who's win % doesn’t put him in the top 15%?
Answers on a post card to;
DAVID MOYES
We have been stuffed at home 3 times this season already you know. 3-0, 4-2, 4-1 And yet Moyes is still a god amongst some of you. That 3-0 defeat was about his 5th game in charge. He’s been to old Trafford and won 3-0 twice, Moyes finally won there after 300 attempts and his fan boys want a statue.
I just want to watch my team attack and try and win games and play good football in the process and actually watch some entertainment at home. The way Moyes set his teams up , you can’t be finishing 13th that style has to have some meaning to it, Europe and challenging for trophies.
Of course even Iroalo or any Manager has to have success at some point, but a manager who has a style that’s entertaining and looks like he has a plan and coaches the players, will have more leeway from the fans imo. More so than a manager who plays 4 CB’s and boots up to a 6ft 4 striker all game and sets up for 0-0 most weeks.
Moyes wasted most of the money he spent
Is it just me, or has just this thread gone completely nuts again 
