2025/26 David Moyes

McTominay is on £91,500 Windy so Job For The Moyes was rightish saying he's on 90k
He’s probably right to a degree too. He would’ve probably wanted a bit more due to English tax. But he’d have been an idea Rice replacement for them. The decided to trust a novice DOF over a Moyes, which was really stupid and is a big part of why they could end up relegated this season.
 
That’s the problem - people all want to sell their players like Del Boy Trotter. You keep these guys, make them key players and build your team up over seasons and get higher league placings. You then have time to scout adequate replacements and keep the standards high.

Everyone wants to be Brighton nowadays. Pardon me for wanting better than being a feeder club.
But you don't get years out of the guys you're proposing when you sign them in their late twenties, at least not years at their best. You get one or two years then decline. It's a false economy.

As for the feeder club comment, I'm not sure if you are deliberately missing my point to be contrary or haven't read my posts properly but what I've said is that if you buy a clutch of younger promising players and, inevitably, some don't work out then you can recoup some of the outlay. Beyond that, of course, in the short term, without regular champions league football, a basic fact of life for clubs is that they will have to occasionally sell a player they would rather keep. Those players tend to be players either at or approaching their prime. If we only have a handful of those players then each sale under your model just ages our squad all the more. It's the quickest way to make us uncompetitive, it is not a route to success.
 
But you don't get years out of the guys you're proposing when you sign them in their late twenties, at least not years at their best. You get one or two years then decline. It's a false economy.

As for the feeder club comment, I'm not sure if you are deliberately missing my point to be contrary or haven't read my posts properly but what I've said is that if you buy a clutch of younger promising players and, inevitably, some don't work out then you can recoup some of the outlay. Beyond that, of course, in the short term, without regular champions league football, a basic fact of life for clubs is that they will have to occasionally sell a player they would rather keep. Those players tend to be players either at or approaching their prime. If we only have a handful of those players then each sale under your model just ages our squad all the more. It's the quickest way to make us uncompetitive, it is not a route to success.
McTominay at the time would get you years - he was 26 or 27! Even Maguire was something like 30 and centre halves can go much longer, especially under a manager like Moyes.
 
Buying McTominay when Napoli bought him is absolutely fine, he was 27.
I'd actually have taken McTominay but let's not pretend his transfer was a guaranteed success. He was a fringe player for most of his time at Man Utd and even after establishing himself he wasn't the marauding goal scoring swashbuckler we see now at Napoli. Conte deserves a huge amount of credit, as does McTominay.
 
McTominay at the time would get you years - he was 26 or 27! Even Maguire was something like 30 and centre halves can go much longer, especially under a manager like Moyes.
Maguire gets a lot of stick but he's actually an excellent centre half especially if playing at a mid table level side. He's also got really good character to bounce back from the criticism he gets constantly
 
McTominay at the time would get you years - he was 26 or 27! Even Maguire was something like 30 and centre halves can go much longer, especially under a manager like Moyes.

I'd actually have taken McTominay but let's not pretend his transfer was a guaranteed success. He was a fringe player for most of his time at Man Utd and even after establishing himself he wasn't the marauding goal scoring swashbuckler we see now at Napoli. Conte deserves a huge amount of credit, as does McTominay.
Ah yes, the magical qualities of Moyes. I forgot, soz.
 
Moshiri’s choices weren’t that bad. It’s just a very hard league where you have the toughest teams on the planet. But people underestimate Moyes because he has to come up through the English system. Had he the luxury of starting his career in an easy European league and won loads of easy pots he would get a lot more leeway.

You can’t seriously argue that many of these mangers would likely turn in worse results than Moyes given the same resources.

Klopp
Tuchel
Carrick
Iraola
Pocettino
Nagelsmann
Ancelotti
Alonso
Maresca
Glasner
 
It’s not magic. It’s just looking at what he did with people like Stubbs, Weir, Zouma, Dawson, Distin, etc.
As I said right at the start of this saga, you won't have any criticism of Moyes (except for his ties). I'm not sure there's much middle ground here. You love him, I don't. You want us to buy older players on higher wages, I'd prefer us to sign younger players on lower wages. There's no real point clogging up the thread saying those things over and over again.
 

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