At what point does his position start to come under real threat? If we get knocked out tomorrow? If we finish bottom half at the end of the season?
I get there was a rebuilding job to do when he came in, but if we want to keep the likes of Ndiaye and Branthwaite, we need to be showing them we’re on an upward trajectory, not accepting mediocrity, failing to address glaring weaknesses and regularly setting up to play negative football.
1st question in the Brentford presser was about the panel saying we should have had a pen vs Arsenal and what was his thoughts on it…… he gave the most insipid, passive reply possible, basically they’re doing their best and it’s swings and roundabouts. Nothing about the hand ball (on another day / another badge) against Forest.
Just wait until the next one that actually costs us and he’s seething about referees inconsistency…
I’m still Moyes-in, because he’s stable, and we need that after the last few years.
However he, the squad, and the club, have completely thrown away this season in the space of a couple of weeks.
The weak is as league as it’s ever looked and we just seem happy doing naff all despite this.
That isn't really the point I was making. The post was in the context of people effectively saying 'well it's better than the last couple of years what more do you want' you plebs' as if it's outrageous for people to actually want to be entertained and enjoy going to matches. I don't ever expect to see Everton win the league in my lifetime, I made my peace with that a long time ago, but seeing people say the club needs a period of stability and we all need to just accept it is frustrating because that's not what being a football fan is supposed to be about. We're supposed to want them to win and be frustrated when they don't, that's normal behaviour. I go to games hoping to enjoy them in the moment, not to endure them with a view to possibly enjoying them at some point in the future.
I’m still Moyes-in, because he’s stable, and we need that after the last few years.
However he, the squad, and the club, have completely thrown away this season in the space of a couple of weeks.
The weak is as league as it’s ever looked and we just seem happy doing naff all despite this.
….the loss of Ndiaye and in particular KDH must have a huge impact, particularly at home where we’re struggling to break teams down.
Where Moyes et al need challenging is in the expensive acquisition of Barry and Dibling who I’m sure have not had the impact the club expected.
I don’t care the name of the manager I just want to see more positive play and not putting players out of position and unbalancing the team.
Especially changing winning teams for no reason, for the League cup or post the Forest win
AFCON is also no surprise.
So buying players and not slowly bedding them in during the run up to AFCON is also short sighted.
Those points are the reason I unhappy with the manager, regardless who it is.
I just don’t understand why McNeil Keane Tarkowksi Mykolenko O’Brien Gana can make whatever silly errors they want. Grealish did a stupid back heel on his own goal line v Wolves then gets sent off for dissent. We’ve had hair pulls, handballs, back passes, careless playing out, mis timed lunges, hitting your own player, having zero positional sense, chasing the ball like a school boy, and aimless running down blind alleyways. That’s all fine apparently.
But the second Dibling loses the ball, it’s all this over exasperated heads in hands and arms up from the manager followed by him getting hooked at half time. Alcaraz is just generally not liked for no known reason as he seems a hard worker who always tries even when not playing well. Patterson is met with utter revilement every time he’s mentioned. Barry is spoken about like he wasn’t signed by the manager, and Aznou is spoken about like he isn’t even a footballer. Rohl has gone from well liked to behind Armstrong after one bad game. Meanwhile we have kids on the bench who are clearly never going to play a single minute for us.
We have two fullbacks at the club in Patterson and Aznou who effectively won’t be used by the manager despite us having a massive fullback issue. God forbid we played Patterson at right back or even tried Aznou there when we can just stick with a known liability in O’Brien instead.
We have two midfielders in Rohl and Alcaraz both bought in the summer neither of whom the manager trusts as first choice.
We have a 40 mill pound wide player that the manager doesn’t like
Plus two strikers for a combined worth of 50 mill plus and Moyes actually likes the one he didn’t buy that the club would actually like to move on but is seemingly being forced to play the one we spent a ton on in the summer.
It’s a bit ridiculous. Managers should maximise the resources they have. It was stupid of Dyche to keep O’Brien on the bench and it’s stupid what Moyes is doing now. Players make mistakes, at least young ones have a chance to develop from them and learn from them. The senior players I’ve listed will just keep making them and will make more and more as they get older and slower.
I dont want us to be even in it to win it.I would love to win the poxy european trophy, and moyes knows how to win it.
Oh yeah that’s nonsense. What’s happening now, and what happened under Dyche, is a choice we’re making. We could just wake up and stop making it.That isn't really the point I was making. The post was in the context of people effectively saying 'well it's better than the last couple of years what more do you want' you plebs' as if it's outrageous for people to actually want to be entertained and enjoy going to matches. I don't ever expect to see Everton win the league in my lifetime, I made my peace with that a long time ago, but seeing people say the club needs a period of stability and we all need to just accept it is frustrating because that's not what being a football fan is supposed to be about. We're supposed to want them to win and be frustrated when they don't, that's normal behaviour. I go to games hoping to enjoy them in the moment, not to endure them with a view to possibly enjoying them at some point in the future.
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