2025/26 David Moyes

[davek]

Is this a serious question?

We are literally pretty much safe already. We have been in a relegation fight for the last 5 seasons.

Is it miles better?

It's better, but then if you or I walked into that place last summer and bought £110M of new players and spent out a kings ransom on Grealish's wages we'd hope to see better than the last 5 seasons.

 

[orchard]

Managers are only ever 4 games from plaudits or criticism.

Now more than ever - with 4 points separating 5th and 14th.

Yeah, but it's not like they beat us by a slim margin, nor is it the first dreadful hammering we've taken at home this season.

 

[Curtis]

This is the exact season I expected tbh. We are still miles off in some areas in terms of quality, injuries have really hit us especially with the timing around Afcon.

Moving into a new stadium was bound to affect our home form.

No Branthwaite for the season so far.

We've had ups and downs in terms of results but lets be honest its been miles better than the last 5 seasons already and not living with the stress fo relegation has been great.

Hopefully some additions in Jan then the Afcon players back and hopefully KDH too.

The overreaction yesterday was mental.

Over the last month we've revealed that even with the absences of key players that we can still put in decent winning results , the problem is rather Moyes not acknowledging the fringe players' performances , he becomes so eager to insert his favorites once they're available even if they're not fully fit. You should do little as possible in disrupting a winning lineup yet moyes completely disregards that mentality

 

[Alan Whittle]

A minor detail in the scheme of things.

Even if we were 10 minutes late onto the pitch and their were announcements every 5 minutes they are professionals on the pitch...and in any event it didn't set the mood. We carved out two good early chances and the fans were well up for it.

Is the late playing of a tunnel song REALLY being trotted out by the club and its client hacks to explain away that horror show of amateurism?

I've no idea Dave and I didn't suggest or imply that it it was.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

I take it all back, he’s a fantastic manager, United would be lucky to have him…

 

[Rita_Poon]

We all know

I'll speak and think for me. cheers.

 

[Bluepablo]

I take it all back, he’s a fantastic manager, United would be lucky to have him…

And we should forego any compensation due as we shouldn’t hold him back from fulfilling his potential.

 

[Bluewolf]

100% he has changed the formula from last season and its utter dross that benefits no one aside from possibly Grealish



The first three obvious things:

1: Have pace at the back so the defence can play a higher line. This means O'Brien instead of Keane at centre back.

2: Match their 3 in midfield with quality and energy. This means using Armstrong over McNeil.

3: Attack using both flanks. This means using Patterson at right back.


I'm quite confident 90% of Evertonians would know this before the game began.

The concerning thing was that (ignoring the Beto sub) Rohl was the first player to be brought on and over Armstrong.

This is already a major question mark on Moyes. He has been raving about Rohl in training.

We can see Rohl can run and is a big chap. Is that the barometer for being a good player for Moyes...

Massively disagree with this.

This season is a Evolution of the team and as such were going to have results like yesterday. But from where we were last season to now is absolutely miles apart in both terms of style of play and points picked up.

This is the season where we sort out the wheat from the chaff. Where we see the players in our squad who are capable of being in a team challenging for Europe and those that are just relegation fodder players.

You can see it on the pitch now. Garner, tim (to a degree), ndiaye, o'Brien(at cb) all players from last season who look like they've stepped it up this season.

Beto, gana, mykolenko, Keane, tarks, McNeil were all starters last season and have quickly shown that they are no where near the level needed to be where we want this club to be.

Hopefully in the summer we'll see these replaced with better players and the team will go up another level again. One that can more consistently play the football moyes wants to play.

This what people need to realise, this team isnt the final destination of a moyes team. Its literally the second step on the journey.

Thats why i cant get too upset at results like yesterday. Im gutted we lost but im also looking at the bigger picture. Also tbh if at the start of the season you offered me 10-13th place and no worries of relegation this year, id of ripped your arm off.

Think people are getting too excited by the prospect of Europe. Its nice to be looking up the table rather then looking down it but without significant investment this transfer window and alot of luck with injuries for the rest of the season, i honestly cant see it happening

 

[davek]

I've no idea Dave and I didn't suggest or imply that it it was.

It seems to be a common complaint from yesterday. I'm sure the club will be delighted it's deflecting from the chronic nature of the player's and manager's performance.

It was a non-issue.

 

[Alan Whittle]

It seems to be a common complaint from yesterday. I'm sure the club will be delighted it's deflecting from the chronic nature of the player's and manager's performance.

It was a non-issue.

I have no doubt that it had no impact whatsoever on what happened on the pitch but I suggest that it needs sorting and shouldn't happen again.

 

[MikeH72]

Is it miles better?

It's better, but then if you or I walked into that place last summer and bought £110M of new players and spent out a kings ransom on Grealish's wages we'd hope to see better than the last 5 seasons.

And it is better than the last 5 seasons. Most other clubs have spent more than us, £110m is not a lot from a starting base of 14 first team players at the beginning of the summer.

 

[Pabbers]

These are the types of games that make owners / players think twice about next moves or next investments.

We win well yesterday we sit 5th.....it asks a question of the board on do they take a punt on January transfers to push for CL or Europe.

Lose in that manner and back to 12th / Mid-table....They don't ask this question above.....they maybe ask a different question around the manager and is he the right one to get the next lot of transfer money.

Same for players, Grealish can play higher than 12th place....by a mile, maybe even he has 2nd thoughts. Will happen with Ndiaye too.

 

[davek]

Moyes next press conference - that coffee cup of his will be used to good effect.

 

[jazzy]

Where has this myth come from that you need a manager to steady the ship, improve things and then you appoint a better manager?

You can be performing poorly, dwelling near the bottom of the league and just appoint a decent manager that will take the club forward, too. Villa, Palace and Brighton have done so recently.

It's such a poor justification from fans that just love David Moyes, IMO.

It is a risky strategy to completely change everything as Palace found out to their cost when they appointed DeBoer.

If you've just made a massive investment by buying a club the last thing that you want to do is risk that investment by getting relegated.
That's why TFG wanted stability and a safe pair of hands.

 

[Number_25]

We win well yesterday we sit 5th.....it ask a question of the board on do they take a punt on January transfers to push for CL or Europe.

Surely this is an achievement in itself?

This time last season, we were staring down the barrel of another final day relegation battle - but Moyes turned it around and we're all looking up the table - as opposed to looking over our shoulder.

If we can bring in a natural right back I think we have a genuine opportunity to finish in the top 10 this season and give ourselves a platform to bring in the caliber of player that'll see us continue forward our trajectory.