2025/26 David Moyes

[The binman chronicles]

His position should be without question and he has changed the club since he became manager, but he doesn't half shoot himself in the foot sometimes.

We've gone from being solid at the back to amateur hour. Keane should only get in if all three in front of him are out or we have no right back options at all.

It's way more important at home to have a RB that can make the opposition think, else they will end up camped in our half.

All that said, if we had KDH and the AFCON two we would give a much better showing even with the silly defensive choices. Hopefully all come back with Branthwaite and we can kick on.

 

[Zatara]

Made mistakes, yes, but he didn't tell Tarks to give a suicide pass for Brentford's first goal or make 8 or 9 of the lads out on the pitch in that first half have nightmares and be 2nd to everything, lose all their individual battles and lose practically every single 2nd ball. That's on the players. Moyes also didn't cover himself in glory today, but there is plenty of blame to go round.

Moyes changed a defence that won the game when they were basically in the alamo.

Obrien & Tarks should have been the centre backs.

Patterson right back to continue combining with Dibling down the right.

Clear as day.

But no. What does Moyes do? Subs Dibling off and replaces him with Rohl who STILL had no right back support and doesnt look a footballer.

Diblings confidence must be rock bottom and he must be totally frustrated now.

McNeil a passenger and clear as day that he should be sold with Armstrong starting.

You can bet your house on Moyes going for 'experience' against Wolves when we should be using youth and attacking.

 

[daza_1973]

He's done a good job, no doubt, and will have us just in, or around the top half but just when you start to think and believe we can carry on or go one further and build on good results, these stinker results always seem to crop up and we come crashing back down. For me, it's Moyes in a nutshell.

He's the football manager version of a bridge too far.

 

[Ferguson1878]

It’s not as though he’s given a blank cheque book and told to do what he likes with it.

The owners and manager are equally culpable.

Exactly plenty of blame to go round

 

[ToffeeTim]

So now it's a scale of improvement?

The point is, we improved.

If we roll back to the initial exchange;








My point was to another poster agreeing that we've improved, you contested that. I've given you the examples of improvement, which you agreed with.



Agree, and me too. I think I rated our summer recruitment bottom 5% in the assessment thread on here;

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• GrandOldTeam
• everton transfer rumours
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Oh, and Moyes is obviously central/core to recruitment decisions. It's whether the wider setup let him down or not, like he wanted Delap before Barry.



Understand the idea of sacking at our convenience rather than when on our absolute arses, but 'right' manager, whoever that is, isn't happening now.

I find it very hard to believe some of these players would have been high on Moyes list of targets

He might well have signed off on deals but that doesn't make him a head of recruitment like I see people saying. The more likely answer is that someone, or some group of people in our recruitment team suggested signing players for good money who clearly aren't good enough for this level.

The problem is our recruitment system. We repeatedly sign players who aren't very good or are totally unsuited to English football. They don't value pace or goal.scoring threat.

The manager is part of the problem on recruitment but a small part of a much bigger problem IMO

 

[toffeeblue9]

Moyes changed a defence that won the game when they were basically in the alamo.

Obrien & Tarks should have been the centre backs.

Patterson right back to continue combining with Dibling down the right.

Clear as day.

But no. What does Moyes do? Subs Dibling off and replaces him with Rohl who STILL had no right back support and doesnt look a footballer.

Diblings confidence must be rock bottom and he must be totally frustrated now.

McNeil a passenger and clear as day that he should be sold with Armstrong starting.

You can bet your house on Moyes going for 'experience' against Wolves when we should be using youth and attacking.

I don't disagree Zat tbh, but I think you're being unfair if you lump 8 or 9 disgraceful individual performances at his door.

I also have concerns about that Wolves game as their recent performances have been much improved.

 

[dannyboy]

He's done a good job, no doubt, and will have us just in, or around the top half but just when you start to think and believe we can carry on or go one further and build on good results, these stinker results always seem to crop up and we come crashing back down. For me, it's Moyes in a nutshell.

I think the type of result we had today would've happened with different managers - frustrating as it was. It's an inconsistent group of players who aren't good enough to make that push towards the top 7.

I did think Moyes was really poor today too. Just that overall I think it's a mid table team doing mid table things.

 

[Ruairi77]

Made mistakes, yes, but he didn't tell Tarks to give a suicide pass for Brentford's first goal or make 8 or 9 of the lads out on the pitch in that first half have nightmares and be 2nd to everything, lose all their individual battles and lose practically every single 2nd ball. That's on the players. Moyes also didn't cover himself in glory today, but there is plenty of blame to go round.

He kinda did tho.
Tarks does worse alongside Keane.
he played 2 in the middle in response to their 3. When being over run, instead of matching them, he put Rohl out wide and beto up top in a 442.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I find it very hard to believe some of these players would have been high on Moyes list of targets

He might well have signed off on deals but that doesn't make him a head of recruitment like I see people saying. The more likely answer is that someone, or some group of people in our recruitment team suggested signing players for good money who clearly aren't good enough for this level.

The problem is our recruitment system. We repeatedly sign players who aren't very good or are totally unsuited to English football. They don't value pace or goal.scoring threat.

The manager is part of the problem on recruitment but a small part of a much bigger problem IMO

I dont think a single player comes in without Moyes approval.

If he isn't central to recruitment, considering we legged DOF model, reportedly on Moyes preference, then who is ultimately responsible for the club's recruitment?

 

[ToffeeTim]

I dont think a single player comes in without Moyes approval.

If he isn't central to recruitment, considering we legged DOF model, reportedly on Moyes preference, then who is ultimately responsible for the club's recruitment?

I have no idea who is ultimately responsible. And that's the main problem

But my biggest concern is who is suggesting some of these players to.the manager or DOF, or the recruitment team or whoever?

Do we just have a problem with our scouting model and can't identify good players?

 

[Drico]

Signed off might be very different to actively scouting and suggesting players

If he's not aligned, he has to go. It's that simple.

 

[knowing your history]

If he's still here next season then he needs to sign a better calibre of player right from the backline that can get on the front foot at home. Today was really poor from the first minute, same against Newcastle six weeks back.

4 wins from first 10 at BMD isn't anything to write home about and home wins in second half of the season will be hard to come by with RS, Chelsea and both Manchester clubs still to visit.

I'd love to see this club play with intensity at home like Newcastle do. Every single home game they are on it from the first minute and press like maniacs.

Will probably have to be another 2-3 transfer windows before there's an 11 capable of that but far too easy for Brentford today.

 

[ToffeeTim]

If he's not aligned, he has to go. It's that simple.

If players are being suggested who aren't the right signings, then it's hard to get everyone on the same page.

 

[Zatara]

I don't disagree Zat tbh, but I think you're being unfair if you lump 8 or 9 disgraceful individual performances at his door.

I also have concerns about that Wolves game as their recent performances have been much improved.

Players drop in performance lies at the door of the manager.

Changing a solid defence is on the manager

Playing McNeil and Rohl is on the manager

Mykolenko may not be an attacking left back but he gave Grealish a lot of support today.

Obrien for Dibling = Zero.

Hooking young players after hanging them out to dry is utterly disgraceful.

We had the chance to go 5th today and this manager threw it away.

 

[COYBL25]

His position should be without question and he has changed the club since he became manager, but he doesn't half shoot himself in the foot sometimes.

We've gone from being solid at the back to amateur hour. Keane should only get in if all three in front of him are out or we have no right back options at all.

It's way more important at home to have a RB that can make the opposition think, else they will end up camped in our half.

All that said, if we had KDH and the AFCON two we would give a much better showing even with the silly defensive choices. Hopefully all come back with Branthwaite and we can kick on.

This.