2025/26 David Moyes

[GrandOldTeam]

You admit then it's not to the level required for the ambitions we have.

Got there in the end.

I've always been there mate.

You? Not so much.

It's an 8 for me.

Grealish is a massive coup.

KDH has fit in well. Charly was a must at that price.

Some great youngsters in Dibling, Aznou, and Barry for reasonable prices.

Just missing that right back which I can't wrap my head around us not getting one in but overall you can't say it's not been improvements to both the first 11 and the squad profile/age.

But, poor recruitment aside, the recruitment we did do, even if not great - did improve us upon the last few seasons.

So we shouldn't go backwards in the league, and we won't. We've been better this season, and I think we'll finish top 10 because of it.

 

[Efcjake]

So now it's a scale of improvement?

The point is, we improved.

If we roll back to the initial exchange;








My point was to another poster agreeing that we've improved, you contested that. I've given you the examples of improvement, which you agreed with.



Agree, and me too. I think I rated our summer recruitment bottom 5% in the assessment thread on here;

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• GrandOldTeam
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Oh, and Moyes is obviously central/core to recruitment decisions. It's whether the wider setup let him down or not, like he wanted Delap before Barry.



Understand the idea of sacking at our convenience rather than when on our absolute arses, but 'right' manager, whoever that is, isn't happening now.

My issue with it is that this "improvement" negligible as it is, is being used to justify increased expectations and yet we are all agreeing that the signings besides KDH and Grealish have been ineffective at best and crap at worst.

Yes, they replaced other crap players, the squad is not massively improved.

It's improved on the slightest of margins but people want us to challenge for Europe and do a cup run because of it. It doesn't seem very fair at all when there are plenty of other better sticks to beat him with.

 

[Moomin]

Managers for brentford and brighton are just cheerleaders. All the work is done back stage. Frank not exactly doing much at spurs. Wheres potter now? Wheres de zerbi? All of them did well at these clubs and ive no doubt the next managers will too. The clubs are well oiled machines

De Zerbi is at Marseille, got them second in the league last season.

Spurs finished below us last season, Frank has them above us so far.

Potter has the backbone of a flump.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

My issue with it is that this "improvement" negligible as it is, is being used to justify increased expectations and yet we are all agreeing that the signings besides KDH and Grealish have been ineffective at best and crap at worst.

Yes, they replaced other crap players, the squad is not massively improved.

It's improved on the slightest of margins but people want us to challenge for Europe and do a cup run because of it. It doesn't seem very fair at all when there are plenty of other better sticks to beat him with.

Small margins. One result, which Grealish/Dewsbury-Hall have more than impacted, can see 6-9 places in the league.

Top 10 is my expectation.

Moyes' aim, and his club captain 2 weeks ago - was Europe. Let's see.

 

[Daytripper]

whats the point in changing manager yet again if it’s the same “oh well move on” attitude that has been here for decades?

 

[Joey66]

You don't change a winning team .....

 

[blueboy72]

How was that on him? The starting line up was decent on paper, and he made positive changes at HT to try and get a grip of the game. Their first 3 of the goals were down to nonsense defending (left before their 4th so I've not seen it).

The players there were downright lazy and so mindless at times it defied belief. Such is the life of a midtable team, great one game then hopeless the next.

Teams that start O'Brien at RB, Mykolenko at LB and Ireobugnam in CM are never qualifying for Europe, it's that simple.

What was positive about the subs, brought a striker on who can’t trap a ball and a defensive midfielder on to play right wing

 

[Del-boy]

Nice one for changing the team dopey

 

[toffeeblue9]

All on Moyes today.

Disgracefully left Dibling isolated and instead of seeing the obvious need for an attacking right back...

...hooks the kid at half time.

How on earth hes thought the plan was to change a winning team is pure Moyes with his negativity.

Utterly abysmal management today.

The ONLY thing he got right with subs was bringing Armstrong on who should have started ahead of McNeil.

Furious.

Made mistakes, yes, but he didn't tell Tarks to give a suicide pass for Brentford's first goal or make 8 or 9 of the lads out on the pitch in that first half have nightmares and be 2nd to everything, lose all their individual battles and lose practically every single 2nd ball. That's on the players. Moyes also didn't cover himself in glory today, but there is plenty of blame to go round.

 

[daza_1973]

The Texans have hired one of their locals to motivate the squad and relieve Moyes.

 

[EFCPaul]

What was positive about the subs, brought a striker on who can’t trap a ball and a defensive midfielder on to play right wing

Tried to go for a flat 4-3-3 with 3 CMs but whatever plan went out the window after the players threw 2 goals in within minutes. We'll never know.

The players should take responsibility for that 100% imo.

 

[Moomin]

So now it's a scale of improvement?

The point is, we improved.

If we roll back to the initial exchange;








My point was to another poster agreeing that we've improved, you contested that. I've given you the examples of improvement, which you agreed with.



Agree, and me too. I think I rated our summer recruitment bottom 5% in the assessment thread on here;

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• GrandOldTeam
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Oh, and Moyes is obviously central/core to recruitment decisions. It's whether the wider setup let him down or not, like he wanted Delap before Barry.



Understand the idea of sacking at our convenience rather than when on our absolute arses, but 'right' manager, whoever that is, isn't happening now.

We will behind the scenes be speaking with potential future managers, why wait till the summer before pressing the button.

Moyes was just a stop gap who was available at the time.

 

[N0L1M1TK]

Perspective is needed here. Big time.

He is a much better manager than previous. He has raised standards, we people are believing in this team again.

The squad is a mid to lower half table team.

Moyes isn’t the long term option, we all know that, but what he has done on the whole (and there is exceptions like today) is ensured that we will not be involved in the relegation debate.

There will be more days like this, there will also be plenty more wins.

A bad day for all involved. He must get the wolves game right.

 

[leslad]

I'm very curious to hear his reasoning for our defending today against a team who were supposedly decimated by transfers in the summer.

Say what you want about the players, but conceding from another corner at home is symptomatic of systemic problems that it's on the manager to fix.

 

[dannyboy]

Today was a shambles. Completely played off the park by Brentford for the majority of the game, which isn't good enough. Even if they've got better technical players, it shouldn't have been so easy for them to play through us.

Moyes has really struggled to get the formula right at home. I think we should be looking to grind out the wins like we do away from home rather than dominating teams. Maybe when Brainthwaite is back and we're firing on all cylinders, but it was a real eye opener to see how much Brentford were than us when we tried to match them in an open game.