Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Just take a second to think.

The west have collapsed the economy and put populations under house arrest for a virus which WHO were absolutely useless on up until mid-Feb, and basing it on techniques which the only 'evidence' of it working comes from China, who are claiming to have less confirmed cases than Italy and just 1,000 more than Spain and a whole 60,000 less than the US, despite having an estimated population of 1.5 billion and being the outbreak of the spread (in a city of 11 million).

I genuinely can't get my head around it.
 
Just take a second to think.

The west have collapsed the economy and put populations under house arrest for a virus which WHO were absolutely useless on up until mid-Feb, and basing it on techniques which the only 'evidence' of it working comes from China, who are claiming to have less confirmed cases than Italy and just 1,000 more than Spain and a whole 60,000 less than the US, despite having an estimated population of 1.5 billion and being the outbreak of the spread (in a city of 11 million).

I genuinely can't get my head around it.

If all of a sudden they have thousands of ventilators and tons of PPE gear for sale, you’ll know something really fishy is going on !
 
There’s going to be a point where lots of families will be self-isolating and they’ll need to be provided resources by other families. If you’ve got to park far away, you’re more likely to pass others.

Perhaps, but dropping off supplies in that instance wouldn't require you to park - given you'd be dropping them off without any contact - and almost certainly wouldn't get a ticket anyway (either for highway obstruction or parking).

All removing parking restrictions, especially residential bays, will do is make people who do go out in their car to shop / care for others / go to their jobs as emergency workers come home to find out someone who shouldn't be out anyway is now parked in their space and they now have to park far away.
 
I'm still concerned that the western governments seem to be basing their entire way of combating this disease on what China told them worked...
There really isn’t an other option but follow a similar pattern because historically (with other major infections) isolation is a standard approach.

With regards to the figures coming out of China, what we are hearing and what our governments will know (and are using) are worlds apart.

The spooks and GCHQ aren’t going to openly declare ‘we know the numbers are wrong’ because that would be saying ‘Look, this is our capability’.
 
Just take a second to think.

The west have collapsed the economy and put populations under house arrest for a virus which WHO were absolutely useless on up until mid-Feb, and basing it on techniques which the only 'evidence' of it working comes from China, who are claiming to have less confirmed cases than Italy and just 1,000 more than Spain and a whole 60,000 less than the US, despite having an estimated population of 1.5 billion and being the outbreak of the spread (in a city of 11 million).

I genuinely can't get my head around it.
We had an entirely different option available - the one that Singapore and S Korea took of aggressive tresting/contract tracing but we in the West largely squandered that chance so the only other option is lockdown/quarantine that has a long history in pandemics.
 
We had an entirely different option available - the one that Singapore and S Korea took of aggressive tresting/contract tracing but we in the West largely squandered that chance so the only other option is lockdown/quarantine that has a long history in pandemics.

Was that an option? Did we have the tests available at the time in the numbers we’d require? This thing has spread like wildfire.
 
Was that an option? Did we have the tests available at the time in the numbers we’d require? This thing has spread like wildfire.
US and S korea had their first case within 24 hours (Jan 19/20). UK was Jan 30.

Within that week S Korea had collected together 4 companies and got them trialing tests and then once working fast tracked their approval and production. The tests weren’t perfect as they had some false positives but the US tried for a perfect solution which failed and completely mismanagement the authorization/production process. I don’t know what happened to the UK rollout.
 
US and S korea had their first case within 24 hours (Jan 19/20). UK was Jan 30.

Within that week S Korea had collected together 4 companies and got them trialing tests and then once working fast tracked their approval and production. The tests weren’t perfect as they had some false positives but the US tried for a perfect solution which failed and completely mismanagement the authorization/production process. I don’t know what happened to the UK rollout,

But is it really simple enough to compare South Korea to the US? 50m population vs 350m as well as US being far more of a hub for travel. I don’t suspect it could have been a timely option given the speed of the spread.
 
But is it really simple enough to compare South Korea to the US? 50m population vs 350m as well as US being far more of a hub for travel. I don’t suspect it could have been a timely option given the speed of the spread.
Could we have scaled as fast, probably not quite given the respective sizes but we could have done a darn sight better than we did - iirc we’d only done 500 tests by the end of Feb! The UK had managed do far more testing in that timeframe (although nowhere close to Germany)
 
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