Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Mrk]

We moan about how this has been handled in the UK and Europe, but thank god we're not being led by this moron right now. He's realised they're going to need a huge number of ventilators (after denying it) and is now shifting blame. Literally the scum of the earth this guy.

 

[royalblue66]

It’s going to be really interesting to see how Sweden get on. They are continuing the strategy originally started in the U.K. with keeping things going and no lockdown before Boris was bounced into lockdown........

Just had a msg from a mate,police in N Wales turning dozens of people around that where going to coastal resorts.

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

759 have now died, my God that's some jump in 24 hours

 

[aazak]

Tennis world number one Novak Djokovic said he was donating €1m to help his native Serbia buy respirators and other gear to combat the coronavirus.

The player was speaking in a video conference from the southern Spanish city of Marbella, where he and his family are currently hunkering down under nationwide lockdown orders.

"Our donation is for the purchase of life-saving respirators and other sanitary equipment," said the tennis star.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

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Just had a msg from a mate,police in N Wales turning dozens of people around that where going to coastal resorts.

deffo kopites with their vile broods

 

[canuckblue]

The winters on Long Island aren’t that bad, visiting my in-laws in Canada in January is proper winter misery

Where would that be?

 

[Sentinel]

759 have now died, my God that's some jump in 24 hours

It's harrowing, condolences to those families.

 

[daza_1973]

Just had a msg from a mate,police in N Wales turning dozens of people around that where going to coastal resorts.

Some people really just defy logic.
I suppose this very unusually fine end to march isn't helping things - imagine if it had lashed it down for the last fortnight and imagine the lives it would/could have saved.

 

[wm02]

Where would that be?

Elmira, Ontario. Lovely place but it can be brutally cold

 

[Catfish Blues]

I get that and it's fascinating. But not relevant. When you say, in any given year. This pandemic isn't any given year. It's 2020. Are you subtlety comparing it to the flu? That's kinda staggering.

You're not understanding, but maybe I'm not explaining it very well, so I'll give it another go with some numbers.

I'm just talking about the UK situation in relation to how bad the situation is likely to be, so forgive me for not delving into the stats outside the UK, but I can't source them

We would normally expect 550 to 600k deaths in the UK this year
If we take a really bad case of 100k COVID-19 deaths, on the face of it, we'd then see 650 to 700k deaths
In reality, some of the people dying, would have died of their underlying condition anyway, so it'd be a bit less than that

So, remembering the context of my original post, which was "number of deaths being hidden", or words to that effect. Regardless of whether or not COVID-19 deaths are recorded as such, then the overall picture can't be hidden.

In reality, we also have a handle on the number of respiratory related deaths per year there are, so if the number of COVID-19 deaths aren't high enough to show up in the overall number of deaths, then they'll almost show up as an anomaly in respiratory deaths ( again, remember the context of my first post )

Are you subtlety comparing it to the flu? That's kinda staggering.

No, Coronavirus is far worse than the flu. If you think I'm saying that, then you've read pretty much nothing of what I typed

Quoting figures for all deaths at this time is disingenuous but you know that

Again, read what I type, not what you thought I typed

I have no idea we're you are modeling for 600k worldwide deaths. If it's based on flu figures that is irresponsible.

No one is modelling for that, as stated before, there are normally ~ 600k deaths per year in the UK. The driver in the UK, and every other country for that matter should be to keep excess COVID-19 deaths to as low a number as possible. If, at the end of this year ( and next year for that matter ), the overall number of deaths is similar to what you'd expect, then that'll be seen as being a very good outcome overall.

 

[Eggs]

759 have now died, my God that's some jump in 24 hours

....remember the early quote that anything under 20,000 deaths would be good going. Long way to go yet.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Awful impact on these communities

 

[Harryflashman]

We're past simple social distancing. I get what you're saying, but the country was given the order to stay at home, with few exceptions. We were given that order because the public proved we couldn't be trusted to use our own judgement for the collective benefit and kept gathering.

not with that few exceptions really . Anyone who can’t work from home , shopping for ‘essentials ‘ which shops and the government include as alcohol unless you and everybody else aren’t buying in the next few weeks, exercise , caring for those who are vulnerable which might include that woman . That’s actually quite a lot of people , any look at a building site , London tube or canteen with show you that . I’m not arguing that the measures are unreasonable by the way .

Look I’m not saying it should be ignored but I’m saying two people who hadn’t been tested were walking together , because presumably the rules didn’t apply in their case ? Approached a woman who was sitting alone whom they had no idea of her physical of mental well-being and then in direct contravention of every distancing rule I’ve seen seemed to approach her , presumably again because it was more important to what tell her to move ?

of Course rules should apply and be unforced but it’s things like this in my opinion that’ll end up turning a populace against you and the rules . Iron fist in a velvet glove works better than just an iron fist .

 

[Neiler]

I have two sisters living in Long Island
One is a pediatric nurse with loads of ICU experience
So far she is being kept in the Pediatric hospital with no confirmed cases and no visitors allowed
She says Trump has no idea what is heading Americas way

Firgers crossed for her pal!

 

[Neiler]

Now begins the long and painstaking process of trying to track down and locate all his children to let them know.