Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[JimmyJeffers]

We do have a group chat for the office so I will mention it in there if she is no better / worse by Sunday.

This was the exact reason I didn't want to self isolate these past 2 weeks. I knew something like this would happen or at some point in the future I have symptoms. On the face of it I look like a chancer just trying to stay off, even though they sent me home in the first place.

However if I did stay off it would have to be holiday / unpaid work.

All I can think is that the wife hasn't got it , given I have not been unwell and she hasn't left the house to get it.

I understand but it’s a gamble, potentially with people’s lives. I’m pretty certain your coworkers would want you to stay home.

 

[Tubey]

If we take those figures as honest (spoiler: they aren't), then we're around 16 days behind Italy still.

 

[Sentinel]

We do have a group chat for the office so I will mention it in there if she is no better / worse by Sunday.

This was the exact reason I didn't want to self isolate these past 2 weeks. I knew something like this would happen or at some point in the future I have symptoms. On the face of it I look like a chancer just trying to stay off, even though they sent me home in the first place.

However if I did stay off it would have to be holiday / unpaid work.

All I can think is that the wife hasn't got it , given I have not been unwell and she hasn't left the house to get it.

Good luck mate and best wishes.

 

[Mcdrewson]

Is there a website for grassing up non-essential firms demanding their employees attend work? Genuinely asking for a friend.

 

[Aqui1a]

You reckon they will????

They really should. I suspect they will over the coming weeks...

 

[The binman chronicles]

181 deaths in a day. Escalating quickly now, hopefully in another week and a half we will see it start to come back down.

 

[Brennan]

Let's face it, that's what it is.

To be fair they could be correcting the wording proactively in expectation of further deaths where the NHS is stretched and many do die at home.

I'd be genuinely surprised if there were many deaths from Coronavirus in the UK not making it to hospital currently. The NHS is stretched at the moment but even in one of the worst affected areas of the country (Hertfordshire) the hospitals are still operating non essential wards.

 

[roydo]

They really should. I suspect they will over the coming weeks...

Hope so. I have no idea if they were going to broadcast the next England game, and I am assuming one was scheduled for mid week, as per normal international breaks, but if they were, then they have another chance then.

 

[Sentinel]

Is there a website for grassing up non-essential firms demanding their employees attend work? Genuinely asking for a friend.

Call your local law enforcement agency.

 

[Catfish Blues]

A very important point has been made on Twitter.

Since yesterday, they have been reporting the number of deaths of those hospitalised. Prior to that they didn't mention hospitalisation, only deaths of those tested positive...

I hope this isn't a deliberate skewing of the data.

The difference is probably quite small, you'd imagine that the vast majority of people who've died have been admitted, though, as time goes on and the system gets more stretched, the % of people who die at home will likely increase.

Eventually, the numbers of people who died without being admitted will filter through the system ( PM, Cause of death registered etc ).

We won't know the full story for months though. Though horrible, the numbers we're seeing at the moment aren't going to make much difference to the overall number of "expected" deaths for the period. Harsh though it sounds, some people with COVID-19 would have died in the near future anyway ( plainly that's no consolation to their families, but it's true ).

There's a perception among many that the numbers we see should be 100% accurate, but that's naive. There's always going to be grey areas.

In any given year, you'd expect 550 to 600k deaths per year. The overall aim has to be to have a number as close as possible to what we'd normally expect.

 

[Brennan]

The difference is probably quite small, you'd imagine that the vast majority of people who've died have been admitted, though, as time goes on and the system gets more stretched, the % of people who die at home will likely increase.

Eventually, the numbers of people who died without being admitted will filter through the system ( PM, Cause of death registered etc ).

We won't know the full story for months though. Though horrible, the numbers we're seeing at the moment aren't going to make much difference to the overall number of "expected" deaths for the period. Harsh though it sounds, some people with COVID-19 would have died in the near future anyway ( plainly that's no consolation to their families, but it's true ).

There's a perception among many that the numbers we see should be 100% accurate, but that's naive. There's always going to be grey areas.

In any given year, you'd expect 550 to 600k deaths per year. The overall aim has to be to have a number as close as possible to what we'd normally expect.

My thoughts

 

[Sentinel]

In any given year, you'd expect 550 to 600k deaths per year.

For what exactly? The Flu, Covid? What are you talking about. Is that world population. Nations? Sincerely interested.

 

[Brisan123]

It’s the USA figures that frighten me the most today, clear signs of exponential growth on the east coast, you have to presume this is the start and it will spread out west, could be awful and the federal government are just I’m sorry to say bananas.

Loads of friends in the states and lived there for a bit on the west and east coasts, hopefully some how they get around this.

I have two sisters living in Long Island
One is a pediatric nurse with loads of ICU experience
So far she is being kept in the Pediatric hospital with no confirmed cases and no visitors allowed
She says Trump has no idea what is heading Americas way

 

[brigadier]

What are people’s thought on that woman sat alone on a bench in an empty park approached by the police and told to go home ? It felt heavy handed personally , not in a group , nothing more really than somebody who may not have a garden trying to cope with an incredibly stressful time .

I’m sure others may disagree but I can’t help but think it was over the top personally .

If she can do it why cant everyone else.

 

[Catfish Blues]

For what exactly? The Flu, Covid? What are you talking about. Is that world population. Nations? Sincerely interested.

UK deaths for all causes.

The following's just England and Wales, so you'd need to add Scotland and NI to get the full picture ...

2018 541,589
2017 533,253
2016 525,048
2015 529,655
2014 501,424
2013 506,790
2012 499,331
2011 484,367
2010 493,242
2009 491,348


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