Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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certainly in Liverpool post Christmas most people Ill than I can recall , purely anecdotal but be very interesting if it’s true

Pretty much everyone I worked with complained that they just couldnt shift it. Mind you, thats only 2 people.

Once I started my daily trips to the Bristol BRI, I put it down to stress/worry/crap weather/visiting a hospital every day for 6 weeks. But it deffo hung around way longer than the usual sniffles we all get in the winter.
 
Completely unscientific, (from me), but loads on here over the last few weeks have mentioned feeling crap since Christmas. Me included. Well, not crap like cant work, but crap that a few paracetamols or lemsips would deal with.

A bit feverish, a few aches and pains, and it lasted for ages. Hope she is right.

I said this early doors. Christmas eve, sore throat developed, dissappeard during the day but would come back towards the night. After a bit I developed the worst cough I've ever had. Was wheezing and chest felt terrible and it lasted weeks.
 



The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford. If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study.

The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all. “We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said. The modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group indicates that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest. Like many emerging infections, it spread invisibly for more than a month before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February.

The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta. However, she was reluctant to criticise the government for shutting down the country to suppress viral spread, because the accuracy of the Oxford model has not yet been confirmed and, even if it is correct, social distancing will reduce the number of people becoming seriously ill and relieve severe pressure on the NHS during the peak of the epidemic.

The Oxford study is based on a what is known as a “susceptibility-infected-recovered model” of Covid-19, built up from case and death reports from the UK and Italy. The researchers made what they regard as the most plausible assumptions about the behaviour of the virus. The modelling brings back into focus “herd immunity”, the idea that the virus will stop spreading when enough people have become resistant to it because they have already been infected. The government abandoned its unofficial herd immunity strategy — allowing controlled spread of infection — after its scientific advisers said this would swamp the National Health Service with critically ill patients.

But the Oxford results would mean the country had already acquired substantial herd immunity through the unrecognised spread of Covid-19 over more than two months. If the findings are confirmed by testing, then the current restrictions could be removed much sooner than ministers have indicated. Although some experts have shed doubt on the strength and length of the human immune response to the virus, Prof Gupta said the emerging evidence made her confident that humanity would build up herd immunity against Covid-19.

To provide the necessary evidence, the Oxford group is working with colleagues at the Universities of Cambridge and Kent to start antibody testing on the general population as soon as possible, using specialised “neutralisation assays which provide reliable readout of protective immunity,” Prof Gupta said.They hope to start testing later this week and obtain preliminary results in days.


God, I really, really hope this is closer to what is happening.
 
Completely unscientific, (from me), but loads on here over the last few weeks have mentioned feeling crap since Christmas. Me included. Well, not crap like cant work, but crap that a few paracetamols or lemsips would deal with.

A bit feverish, a few aches and pains, and it lasted for ages. Hope she is right.

I feel like that at the moment TBH -no cough though
 

TBH I think we were headed for global recession anyway without covid-19. It will be a new world come the end of this pandemic. As my dad said the other day - it will be similar to the end of WW2. Companies and entire industries will go to the wall but new opportunities will also be created. Gotta just roll with it my friend.
 
I said this early doors. Christmas eve, sore throat developed, dissappeard during the day but would come back towards the night. After a bit I developed the worst cough I've ever had. Was wheezing and chest felt terrible and it lasted weeks.

I dont think I had a chest problem, but coughing and sneezing was a constant for weeks. I also felt what I call watery. Like you really dont want to risk a fart, but you actually can. Not poorly, just dont feel quite right.

edit. While that contradicts itself, my cough wasnt a chesty one.
 
I feel like that at the moment TBH -no cough though

That sounds like what I had - tight chest and shortness of breath for several days, a feeling like a sore throat was coming, a fever (but only on the first night), quite a bit of fatigue over days (was sleeping 11-12 hours some nights) and the occasional cough / sneeze.

Got over it now mind, and seven days are up tomorrow so back to work.
 
Government really have not got a clear message out. Two examples. Stay at home unless you are essential worker in Johnsons address this continues to redifined. And whatever Gove was blurting about today... If the leadership at top can't lead don't expect it just to happen and don't be surprised if it looks bad. And the London Mayor role pales into insignificance compared to the responsibility of Burnham's Mayorship.

Johnson didn't say unless you were an essential worker in his address.

He said unless it was absolutely essential that you had to go into work and that you couldn't work from home.

I don't see where that was really muddled.

The other stuff - i agree with you and in general it has been muddled but the address yesterday said only go into work unless you cannot work from home.

As they haven't shut down the construction industry yet, then people who work on sites have to go in. That also includes people on streetworks though etc - a lot of whom are self-employed (hopefully very soon we'll have clarity on that).

Any office which isn't for key workers (and even then) should be set up to work remotely - it's 2020. It's not hard.

You can get skype set up for free and everybody surely has a laptop or PC. If not, the business should buy them and get them delivered to people's homes.

What's Burnham got to do with this?

Khan and TfL chose to cut the tubes down. The government have been muddled - completely agree - but people blaming them for not being enough tubes are barking up the wrong tree.
 
I dont think I had a chest problem, but coughing and sneezing was a constant for weeks. I also felt what I call watery. Like you really dont want to risk a fart, but you actually can. Not poorly, just dont feel quite right.

edit. While that contradicts itself, my cough wasnt a chesty one.

Yeah I had that feeling of needing to throw up only did the once but think that was through coughing so much.

Not sure if I want it to have been that or not because it leaves lasting lung damage doesn't it.
 
I dont think I had a chest problem, but coughing and sneezing was a constant for weeks. I also felt what I call watery. Like you really dont want to risk a fart, but you actually can. Not poorly, just dont feel quite right.

edit. While that contradicts itself, my cough wasnt a chesty one.

and @Paulie

Plenty of people have said the same. My mate was in a really bad way with all the symptoms of covid-19 back in Jan. Obviously he can't know yet whether he's had it and isn't assuming he did, but he was out for a week nearly. I actually saw him just after he'd got through the worst of it and he looked absolutely shot.

Speaking to a neighbour over the weekend - she's a nurse at my local hospital. She's convinced she had all the symptoms back around Novermber time too.

It's so hard to tell but while people shouldn't be assuming they have had it of course, it's also worth pointing out plenty of people have complained of having exactly the same symptoms long before the last two weeks (which is when we were really told all of the known symptoms in detail)
 
quite a bit of fatigue over days (was sleeping 11-12 hours some nights) and the occasional cough / sneeze.

That was me for weeks. Before she went all lazy and opted for the Hospital, it would annoy the hell out of Mrs R when I went to bed at like 9.00 pm, or earlier some times. Just wiped out.
 
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