In his spiritual forum with Matt Le Tissier.
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In his spiritual forum with Matt Le Tissier.
What is it about these spiritually connected types?
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The initial trials didn’t pick up those issues because the incidence is so low. For example.
These were some of the largest drug trials ever but it is still very hard to spot side effects of 10 or 40 per million over background noise when you have a sample of 50,000 people - if you have a great idea of how they could have I’m sure the scientists would be delighted to hear it.
And the whole reason why these issues were spotted later was because that very same medical community you are criticizing were extremely vigilant about tracking issues post the vaccines release to a huge population and continue to do so.
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The initial trials didn’t pick up those issues because the incidence is so low. For example.
“In all, more than 2.2 million second Pfizer doses were given and more than 870,000 Moderna doses. Within 21 days of the second dose, there were a total of 59 myocarditis cases (21 Pfizer and 31 Moderna) and 41 pericarditis cases (21 Pfizer and 20 Moderna). Researchers also looked at rates per million doses and the rate was 35.6 cases per million for Moderna and 12.6 per million for Pfizer—an almost threefold increase after Moderna shots vs. Pfizer. Comparatively, rates of myocarditis in the general population in 2018, were 2.01 per million in people under age 40 and 2.2 per million in people over age 40.”
These were some of the largest drug trials ever but it is still very hard to spot side effects of 10 or 40 per million over background noise when you have a sample of 50,000 people - if you have a great idea of how they could have I’m sure the scientists would be delighted to hear it.
And the whole reason why these issues were spotted later was because that very same medical community you are criticizing were extremely vigilant about tracking issues post the vaccines release to a huge population and continue to do so.
And how many cases have gone undetected or misdiagnosed my friend?
People have died but unfortunately many dont give a toss which is the saddest thing of all. We have the covid memorial wall in the UK yet no one ever talks about those lost through taking an emergency approved vaccine in good faith "Its only a small number" "dont be an anti vaxxer" they heckle like blood thirsty hyenas.
Now realistically its impossible to prevent all deaths and ultimately the pandemic itself has put us in a tough situation in terms of not having long to monitor the adverse reactions but no matter what peoples opinions are the vaccines have taken lives (many of those young lives with everything to live for) and for others adverse reactions other than blood clots/myocarditis such as vasculitis which in many cases results in life long regressive medicine treatment that ultimately reduces life expectancy.
Buts some dont care its just statistics to them and not real people behind those figures.
Boy just doesn't know when he's beat, does he?
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Hi yes, police please.
Yeah I’ve just witnessed a murdering.
Absolutely savage.
I’m in the Covid thread yes.
Best bring a shovel to scrape up this mess
Yeah I’ve just witnessed a murdering.
Absolutely savage.
I’m in the Covid thread yes.
Best bring a shovel to scrape up this mess
Wex on, Wex off
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Im not beat my friend. Covid has killed millions of people worldwide but the Vaccine has also killed people albeit and thankfully much less.
As I've said overall on the balance of things the covid jabs have done far more good than bad however they aint perfect which is the topic at point.
on a side note what dissapoints me about these vaccine developing companies is that they have made it very difficult for the families of those who've lost loved ones in taking the vaccine in terms of being able to claim some kind of compensation.
Now logically from a business perspective I understand completely why they would put clauses in place due to the emergency nature of their development... but come on show some compassion and decency especially when they've made tens of billions of pounds and dollars in recent years off the back of the pandemic.
I don't know how many cases have gone undetected or misdiagnosed. Similarly I don't know the figures for those who had side effects of Covid but that were cases going undetected/misdiagnosed. So unless you have a way of getting data on either I find it a bit pointless speculating.
What I do believe is that the medical community at large does its very best to try and monitor things and to get the very best information to people on the risks of various treatments and possible side effects. And also put that in context of the risks of not taking them too.
That does not mean that people "don't give a toss" about those impacted by any side effects of the vaccines. Speaking personally I spent hours tracking that information and posting it here, including multiple lengthy discussions with you, so to imply I don't care seems a bit churlish.
I'd imagine the burden of proof to be pretty high on this. As we've already discussed the evidence is not spectacular on this matter.
Ah, he's just after the reaction. Knows his point is not that strong and is now trying the moral high ground stance.
Its classic FB92 playbook.
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I wasn't referring to you my friend more society in general.
If 2 people die in a school shooting the instant reaction is at least it wasn't another Sandy Hook.
If a few hundred die of a vaccine the reaction is Covid killed far more.
Whilst all true from a statistical/logical viewpoint those lost ones were real people with families and the attitude towards questioning the vaccines more severe effects often overlook this which is what I'm trying to highlight.
I think some of that pushback is because people are worried that, in general, humans aren’t great at assessing risk.
I personally prefer full disclosure but human reactions, especially from those with low trust in governments/scientists, mean that many will perceive the risks of the vaccine as much higher than they are and it will lead to overall many more families being left grieving.
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