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COVID-19: Two major incidents declared in England - as troops deployed to London hospitals
The Royal College of Nursing says the deployment means the government can no longer deny there is a "staffing crisis" within the NHS.news.sky.com
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grandjoeblue
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COVID-19: Two major incidents declared in England - as troops deployed to London hospitals
The Royal College of Nursing says the deployment means the government can no longer deny there is a "staffing crisis" within the NHS.
The number of staff in the NHS is clearly far too low. Needs to be increased by 10-15% minimum in order to be able to function with the new covid variant.
The staffing was far too low before covid …. It has been for years.
grandjoeblue
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It definitely sounds like that's the case. I am aware that Tories moan about the vast number of managers and I don't know whether that's true but the number of patient facing staff does need a huge increase in numbers.
efcfanwirral
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Guess the question is what do we do in the meantime? I guess a lockdown would at least mean less car accidents, drunken fights etc and would mean everyone was in the same boats as NHS staff, as you can't just tell them not to socialise when everyone else can
grandjoeblue
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It's difficult to justify a lockdown for staff shortages, you have to wonder how well the public would comply. If hospitals have a large amount of spread it's still likely that large numbers of staff will catch it anyway.
efcfanwirral
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This is true - but then no health service in theory affects everyone. At least football behind closed doors, no crowded events etc would keep a lot of people at home, so it wouldn't matter if some were breaking it in seeing people.
Obviously financial help would be needed for those industries though. Music seems to be self cancelling in the name of safety- Wolf Alice tour got postponed, Frank Turner got canned completely. They used a moral reason of not wanting to put people in danger which did make me wonder if they've set themselves a dangerous precedent around future winter tours and definitely for the next few months because it won't suddenly be "safe" for a while, if ever.
Weird times
You're a sports journalist, right? If you were interviewing someone and they told you their team had won when it was clear that wasn't actually the case, are you saying you'd just go "and there's Jose Mourinho, back to you for the weather..."? That's the fundamental difference between journalism and PR. It's not your job to regurgitate everything you're told.
grandjoeblue
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We'll be in a very similar situation next winter if they keep the testing requirements for NHS staff the same as now.
efcfanwirral
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Not on topic but I remember he did this once at Goodison after a draw. They had a goal disallowed and he gave an interview along the lines of "what do you mean a draw? We scored two beautiful goals and won the game". Was very strange
No but that's not going to happen is it? And you'd challenge it if it did as a journalist. But that C-SPAN video was quite literally just a video of a statement to the press. There were no clips, in that video, of questions being asked. It was literally just a video.
So in your example, that'd be like stating the BBC, let's say, put up a video of Mourinho saying his team had just won despite losing. That'd be the clip, just the Mourinho statement. And then saying that the BBC were responsible, when all they'd done was put up a clip. Which, btw, they absolutely would do in that scenario. It'd be a viral, 10/15-second clip of just Mourinho's quote.
That's all it was here. A news network presenting a clip of someone speaking to the media is not an endorsement of their views, or spreading of any misinformation. It's coverage of something that happened.
I used the Benitez example yesterday. Everton's site published the article with Benitez saying his teams play this way and that way, when all the evidence suggests otherwise. Are Everton spreading misinformation? It's a very blurry line.
Yeah and the journalist would challenge that. But that's in an interview setting. The vid I posted as an example was not an interview. It was a statement to the media and the network posted a video of that statement. That's all it was. A presentation of something that happened.
efcfanwirral
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Haha I get you - was more just because it jogged my memory really - I think it was his first season and it made me laugh a lot at the time
Of course in that scenario the BBC would be responsible as they're the ones publishing it. Who else is responsible for the content the BBC publishes? I say again, it's not the job of the press to act as PR people for individuals or organisations. That is clearly the case with your Everton example, as the Everton website is run by Everton, who employ Benitez, so it is most definitely PR, not journalism.
No, C-SPAN is a news network but it also acts a bit like Reuters or AP. They have a lot of video teams out there. They put videos on their wires, this is a video of a statement to the press. In this video, which was a 2-min clip, there was no opportunity to ask questions. Now, C-SPAN then should - and I don't know if they did but if they're a news network I'm sure they will do - have had people assessing what was said. Under separate cover. But posting the clip itself is not misinformation.
To use another football example. When a manager lies about a possible new signing in a news conference. Let's say Benitez says today: "No, we aren't signing Longstaff. We will not make a bid for the player, he does not interest Everton." That clip, cut to 10 seconds, would then be used across lots of different sites and broadcast agencies (the company I work for being among them, that's how they work in the vid teams).
Then let's say on Monday, Everton sign Longstaff. The companies that spread that clip are not in any way liable for the spread of misinformation. They have cut a clip of Benitez's quotes. There would almost certainly not be any inclusion of the journalist asking the question, or a follow up question, it would just be Benitez's quotes, as that's how viral videos work, by and large unless there is an instance were the publication in question wants to show that a certain question was asked.
And back to the C-SPAN vid, it was simply a video of the person making a statement to the press. In that video, no questions were asked, as it was the initial statement. Other videos will, almost certainly, have shown journalists asking follow up questions if it was a press conference setting. It was simply a representation of what was said, a coverage of an event.
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