Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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ICU stats obver here on vaccination statues in simple Maths per demographic:



*Majority have been identified as Delta.

 

[BlueToff]

Terrible people trying to blame staff sickness, all the data is showing huge increases in the over 60s being admitted to hospital. With yet Christmas and New year period to come into play. So its now staff sickness that puts people in hospital no depths some will go to protect the government narrative.

He wasn't blaming the staff being sick for ffs.

He was saying, which is completely right, that the main issue with Omicron is staff absences. Because it doesn't hospitalise that many, but if hospital staff are isolating for 7 days or having to isolate for being a close contact/wait on a test result or whatever, it adds extra strain. It's not blaming the people themselves. It's just saying that that's the issue with Omicron. And it is, it's pretty much the only issue really because it's so mild for the vast majority of people.

 

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[Neiler]

Good evidence of the positive impact of the boosters, we only started on our under 40s on the 29th of Dec.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

I see Djokovic’s mom is now giving interviews making it sound like he’s a political prisoner being held at Guantanamo Bay as opposed to a guy who lied on his visa application and is being forced to stay in a hotel. Spare me.

 

[BlueToff]

Good vid

 

[BlueToff]

Good vid

Also backs up what Dr Campbell was saying weeks ago, based on the data/reports he was talking about

 

[BlueToff]

Would really recommend everyone watching that vid.

 

[BlueToff]

Also, the point he makes about mandating the boosters in kids is spot on.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Off topic slightly but, we discussed on here the other day, where the line is drawn at misinformation.



So, I have no horse in this race at all, it was just rt'd onto my timeline. And if you look at the comments to that video, it's people saying they are reporting C-Span, a news network, for covering a news story.

Whether the person in the video is lying or not, this is a very dangerous game because that's what this type of thinking can create.

It'd be like us lot reporting BBC News for posting Benitez's pressers and the BS he spouts in them.

(On second thought, maybe we could all try that last bit)

The problem with this "logic" is that the Republicans were in charge of the executive branch at the time. So, for this claim to be true, someone inside Justice or the FBI had to be running an op directly contravening the interests of the president.

Seeing how Trump had just incited the riot shortly prior, I have a hard time picturing the person running the op saying, "Yes, this will make him look bad, and screw the innocents that will die. Execute Operation StormCapitol." That requires some brave on-the-fly thinking, seeing how if you got caught running that op both sides would probably want to execute you for treason.

That said, this is explicitly political speech and dangerous First Amendment territory from a censorship standpoint. The problem is that there are people poorly educated enough to buy this nonsense. One of the core assumptions of representative democracy is that the electorate broadly can reason, and sort truth from fiction. We seem to have jumped that shark.

The vaccine issue results largely from the same problem.

 

[BlueToff]

The problem with this "logic" is that the Republicans were in charge of the executive branch at the time. So, for this claim to be true, someone inside Justice or the FBI had to be running an op directly contravening the interests of the president.

Seeing how Trump had just incited the riot shortly prior, I have a hard time picturing the person running the op saying, "Yes, this will make him look bad, and screw the innocents that will die. Execute Operation StormCapitol." That requires some brave on-the-fly thinking, seeing how if you got caught running that op both sides would probably want to execute you for treason.

That said, this is explicitly political speech and dangerous First Amendment territory from a censorship standpoint. The problem is that there are people poorly educated enough to buy this nonsense. One of the core assumptions of representative democracy is that the electorate broadly can reason, and sort truth from fiction. We seem to have jumped that shark.

The vaccine issue results largely from the same problem.

I'm not saying that it's true mate, I think it's drivel myself. But people shouting and screaming about misinformation for a news network covering this news conference is my point. Like I said, if we did that, you'd have to ban/report any news network that has ever covered an interview or news conf in which someone has lied.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I'm not saying that it's true mate, I think it's drivel myself. But people shouting and screaming about misinformation for a news network covering this news conference is my point. Like I said, if we did that, you'd have to ban/report any news network that has ever covered an interview or news conf in which someone has lied.

The media have a duty to report the truth. As this study shows, the mainstream media can play a key role in the spread of misinformation.

Nobody knows you’re a fake Russian Twitter account

A UB study found that media played an unwitting role in the growth of fake Russian Twitter accounts created to spread disinformation during the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign.

www.buffalo.edu

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

COVID-19: Two major incidents declared in England - as troops deployed to London hospitals

The Royal College of Nursing says the deployment means the government can no longer deny there is a "staffing crisis" within the NHS.

news.sky.com

 

[gonetomorrow]

I see Djokovic’s mom is now giving interviews making it sound like he’s a political prisoner being held at Guantanamo Bay as opposed to a guy who lied on his visa application and is being forced to stay in a hotel. Spare me.

Give him a tennis racquet and a ball and he'll be quite happy.
Like Steve McQueen in The Great Escape with the baseball and that.

 

[BlueToff]

The media have a duty to report the truth. As this study shows, the mainstream media can play a key role in the spread of misinformation.

Nobody knows you’re a fake Russian Twitter account

A UB study found that media played an unwitting role in the growth of fake Russian Twitter accounts created to spread disinformation during the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign.

www.buffalo.edu

Of course they do. But they also have a duty to cover news events and this is one of them.

It's getting a very blurry line here and that's the issue you have if you can cry misinformation at anything.

I don't agree with or care for what the bloke in the news conf was saying, but him being in a news conference speaking does not make the outlet that covered said news conference responsible, unless said news outlet then endorses what is said, which I've seen no evidence of. And bringing it back to COVID, and the conversation that we had in here the other day when a poster asked for certain posts (not posters) to be banned, and GOT refused, which I think was right.

But just to be clear, I was just using that vid as an example.