Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[grandjoeblue]

yes, that is what "any statistician" generally means

also from that SAGE piece:

As the anti vaxxer loonies have shown you can find a statistician or doctor to support anything if you look hard enough. The government go off the SAGE information so that's the information that most people refer to. I shouldn't have said 'any' though.

Time will tell whether their death prediction is accurate. The ICU data from London suggests it's unlikely that we'll hit 600 per day again.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Good thread on the challenges involved in getting accurate data on the more severe impacts of Covid

 

[Number_25]

Staffing is becoming a major issue, and hospitalisations are creeping up again. After discussing things with my English colleagues, I'm just glad that we've gone into partial lockdown here. I hope people see sense.

 

[peteblue]

Quick update … still testing negative on LFT after 6 or 7 days being poorly now ?? I’ve booked myself a PCR test now anyway

You’ve got a bad cold or manflu. Stop wasting all this testing kit and get back to your sheep……

 

[Kurt.]

You’ve got a bad cold or manflu. Stop wasting all this testing kit and get back to your sheep……

Flock off ???

 

[Ghost Rider]

yes, that is what "any statistician" generally means

also from that SAGE piece:



This is right, isn't it?

That figure was rudimentary though was it not? Essentially between a slight increase to triple the number. Extremely vague in all fairness.

 

[Number_25]

That figure was rudimentary though was it not? Essentially between a slight increase to triple the number. Extremely vague in all fairness.

Jesus Christ.

 

[Amw79]

Jesus Christ.

Must be galling that your work is so badly misunderstood.

Who’s to blame, would you say? Politicians, the SAGE head honchos, media? Bit of all 3?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Jesus Christ.

Why the surprise? The figure was between 700-800 at the time it was said? So an increase of 300 compared to 1300 is a significant difference.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Must be galling that your work is so badly misunderstood.

Who’s to blame, would you say? Politicians, the SAGE head honchos, media? Bit of all 3?

The media definitely have caused some of the issue by mainly reporting on worst case scenarios. I do think the models for after the 'freedom' day reopening had an impact as the public seem to have lost trust since then.

 

[Joey66]

I dont trust the numbers in England one bit - Boris is so scared of his back bench revolt .... The sooner he goes, the better....

 

[efcfanwirral]

I dont trust the numbers in England one bit - Boris is so scared of his back bench revolt .... The sooner he goes, the better....

Don't trust them in what way? Do you think they're underplaying them?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Jesus Christ.

A lot of posturing again it’s probably more of a reflection of where England is to be honest with weak governance. England is certainly in a very difficult position, and people want to know how their livelihoods are going to be affected, and how the hospitals are actually doing and coping.

I feel what is actually needed is a proper update. Not a press leak or opinion pieces such as a Telegraph article and such like to be regurgitated, but a proper factual update from Government and Science advice as to where they are and what the estimated situation looks like now we have much more data. They must have an idea from the data what January is likely to look like.

It was mentioned before Christmas that the threshold for further restrictions was 400 hospitalisations a day in London be it rumour and not fact .NHS England have broken that and then some since the 27th. It's about time we had some proper information around all of this.

 

[Joey66]

Don't trust them in what way? Do you think they're underplaying them?

I think they are for the reason I gave ......

 

[Kurt.]

So .. after a week of varying levels of symptoms I’ve just had a positive lateral flow result … at least I know now why I’ve been unwell I suppose