Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[grandjoeblue]

In fairness it didn't happen as often or wasn't reported as often, (I don't know which) only a few weeks ago 2 pl games were halted on the same day due to issues with a fan needing medical help.. that's 4 times this season.

Premier League health warning: games delayed as fans need urgent medical care - Inside World Football

December 2 – Two Premier League games were delayed on Wednesday night due to supporters requiring emergency medical attention. Chelsea’s clash at Watford was halted on 13 minutes while the start of the second half between Southampton and Leicester was also held up. Chelsea and Watford players...

www.insideworldfootball.com

They never used to stop games as often if fans got ill in the stands. It's always happened quite a lot. It's nothing to do with the vaccine.

 

[Tipp blue]

They never used to stop games as often if fans got ill in the stands. It's always happened quite a lot. It's nothing to do with the vaccine.

So not reported then.. I'd only heard of it a few times before this season.

 

[mill]

So not reported then.. I'd only heard of it a few times before this season.

Irrespective if there is more, why do people assume the vaccine is responsible and not the novel virus that’s killed thousands?

People are mental.

 

[grandjoeblue]

So not reported then.. I'd only heard of it a few times before this season.

Dixie Dean collapsed at Goodison all them years ago didn't he, I don't think he had the double jab..

Unfortunately with 40,000 people at games this sometimes does happen.

 

[Prevenger17]

Irrespective if there is more, why do people assume the vaccine is responsible and not the novel virus that’s killed thousands?

People are mental.

Because their eyes are open sheeple!

 

[coollino]

Anti vaxxers are going to the matches and pretending to faint, I saw it on 8chan

 

[Tipp blue]

Irrespective if there is more, why do people assume the vaccine is responsible and not the novel virus that’s killed thousands?

People are mental.

The assumption people are making probably comes from the fact that it's been confirmed by Pfizer and Moderna that heart inflammation is a side effect of the vaccine.
Of all the claims anti vax people make this is one of the more plausible ones.

 

[PhilM]

The assumption people are making probably comes from the fact that it's been confirmed by Pfizer and Moderna that heart inflammation is a side effect of the vaccine.
Of all the claims anti vax people make this is one of the more plausible ones.

The makers of ibuprofen have confirmed that people taking it higher risk of having heart issues or a stroke than people who do not take these medications.

Maybe it was this Or hay-fever tablets? The point being, while medicines may have potential side-effects it's the likelihood of such that is the real barometer.

I'm not saying it is isn't the vaccines doing this, but it may also be an impact of the virus or simply correlation where people are contributing it incorrectly

My daughter has had heart inflammation issues in the past year, but she's not had a vaccine.

 

[Seanjd]

The assumption people are making probably comes from the fact that it's been confirmed by Pfizer and Moderna that heart inflammation is a side effect of the vaccine.
Of all the claims anti vax people make this is one of the more plausible ones.

Yes, but where is the assumption that it could have been due to Covid considering you’re 18x more likely to develop heart problems as a result of the illness?

 

[Tipp blue]

Yes, but where is the assumption that is could have been due to Covid considering you’re 18x more likely to develop heart problems as a result of the illness?

I know that but With the anti vax crew any side effect mentioned will be used, in rare cases you may crash your car after the vaccine, then every car crash would be attributed to the vaccine even though car crashes are extremely common.
I was just saying that of all their claims this one has some basis in fact.

 

[mill]

The assumption people are making probably comes from the fact that it's been confirmed by Pfizer and Moderna that heart inflammation is a side effect of the vaccine.
Of all the claims anti vax people make this is one of the more plausible ones.

The virus has killed over 5 million people globally off the back of around 300 million cases.

There have been close to 10 BILLION vaccinations administered. And how many deaths? Even at a million (which it’s clearly nowhere near - if it’s 100,000 I’ll be surprised) there is a huge huge gulf in risk.

Do you grasp just how large the difference is? It’s quite difficult for people to appreciate just how big, large numbers are (it’s an actual bias and why people overestimate their chances of winning the lottery).

But assuming it’s likely to be vaccine related as opposed to virus related is, fundamentally, irrational.

 

[Tipp blue]

The virus has killed over 5 million people globally off the back of around 3 million cases.

There have been close to 10 BILLION vaccinations administered. And how many deaths? Even at a million (which it’s clearly nowhere near - if it’s 100,000 I’ll be surprised) there is a huge huge gulf in risk.

Do you grasp just how large the difference is? It’s quite difficult for people to appreciate just how big, large numbers are (it’s an actual bias and why people overestimate their chances of winning the lottery).

But assuming it’s likely to be vaccine related as opposed to virus related is, fundamentally, irrational.

The question was asked where the assumption comes from, I gave the answer.. I don't agree with it, but nonetheless that's where it comes from.

 

[mill]

The question was asked where the assumption comes from, I gave the answer.. I don't agree with it, but nonetheless that's where it comes from.

Meant to say 300m cases in my post - now edited.

And my point was why people assume the vaccine and not the virus when the risks of getting seriously Ill from the virus are clearly much much higher.

I’ll reiterate, it’s irrational.

 

[Tigger]

The virus has killed over 5 million people globally off the back of around 300 million cases.

There have been close to 10 BILLION vaccinations administered. And how many deaths? Even at a million (which it’s clearly nowhere near - if it’s 100,000 I’ll be surprised) there is a huge huge gulf in risk.

Do you grasp just how large the difference is? It’s quite difficult for people to appreciate just how big, large numbers are (it’s an actual bias and why people overestimate their chances of winning the lottery).

But assuming it’s likely to be vaccine related as opposed to virus related is, fundamentally, irrational.

I'd argue 5 million have died with covid, not all from, but yes your point still stands.

 

[Blueclouds]

How long does it take for you to catch it. My daughter tested positive on Wednesday locked in her bedroom since and the rest of the household is negative today. Just worried as my husband is very vulnerable. Would we be seeing positives by now. Booked for a pcr this morning.