Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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It’s New Years Day could you not have made your resolution this year to unplug the WiFi?

It is near time for another long GOT break. I've shared a lot of info, which despite the mob on here I think is getting through to some.

I encourage anyone & everyone to look at all the info, from everyone on this thread, and make your own mind up on the jabs.


After today I'll take rest of January off :cheers:
 
I demonstrated why you clearly implied it.

Your defensiveness is revealing.

No, you didn't. You misrepresented what @Amw79 said, and that was after completely misrepresenting what @LinekersLegs post had said (which was that COVID is a much bigger cause of myocarditis than the vaccination is, so if you are concerned about myocarditis specifically then getting vaccinated will result in a lower risk of that happening).

This is why you get the abuse you do, because its very annoying to discuss things with someone who is both very dishonest and very bad at being dishonest.
 
I've very likely been exposed to covid the last few weeks as my girlfriend had it and we live together. Tested negative everyday though. Will I have fought it off and gained a degree of immunity and unlikely to get it in the near future? Or could I still catch it?
 
No, you didn't. You misrepresented what @Amw79 said, and that was after completely misrepresenting what @LinekersLegs post had said (which was that COVID is a much bigger cause of myocarditis than the vaccination is, so if you are concerned about myocarditis specifically then getting vaccinated will result in a lower risk of that happening).
ergo...the side-effect of vaccine-related myocarditis is 'no big deal'. Such a small deal it is, that the vaccine is even encouraged to protect against it.

This is in stark contrast to McCullough's view, who sees vaccine-related myocarditis as a big deal. So big that he is worried that many young people may end up with permanent heart damage. Check out the podcast I linked for more.

Reminder: McCullough is a Cardiologist.


This is why you get the abuse you do, because its very annoying to discuss things with someone who is both very dishonest and very bad at being dishonest.
I stand by the following big deal vs big deal comparison:

Big Deal: many young people may end up with permanent heart damage.
no big deal: it's only mild & short-term and the vaccine more protects against it anyway.


You interpret the above as "very dishonest". What's interesting is the faux-morally outraged defensiveness in fighting the no big deal remark.

The only logical reading of which is...vaccine-related myocarditis just might be a big deal after all?



 
I have linked probably close to a hundred serious sources as to why the vaccines aren't all that great.

I would agree that you have spammed this thread with countless links. In the last two days you have posted links to Joe Rogans podcast and then Toby Youngs lockdown sceptics site: these are not serious sources.

This bit is full of wild assumptions which artificially bolster your case in your own mind (and that of your echo chamber). But you're not actually saying anything of value here. There's nothing concrete, nothing to even counter as it's just empty words.

I was specifically responding to your idiotic point, that the podcast you posted was so important because so many people watched it. Yes lots of people are seeking out this ‘alternative information’ as you call it. Just because people are looking for it does not make it information that stands up to any form of scientific scrutiny.
I'm encouraging others to be informed of data & analysis which aren't being shown by mainstream media (or this thread). I'm not gonna stop doing that, as I feel it's critically important for folk to be able to give informed consent if they do wish to take the vaccine.

When the New York Times are reporting the same stuff I am, you should ask yourself why are you in favour of banning such reporting?

Some scientists warn that too many shots might actually harm the body’s ability to fight the Covid-19 virus

For christs sake. You’re not a reporter. You’re not reporting anything, you’re spamming a thread on a football forum to encourage vaccine hesitancy. I have no idea why you would do this, but it will not encourage informed consent if the majority of the thread is you posting the same stuff over and over again and then countless people shouting at you.

I’m not convinced you’ve read the last link as doubt you have an account but it doesn’t say what you think it does. It’s about whether or not a fourth booster is worth having, the debate is ongoing.

I have read nothing from you about this today so not entirely sure why you have linked to it as if it’s backing your ‘reporting’ up.

Lastly, I implore you to please back off. It’s been a tough two years for everyone and I don’t think you are helping anyone here or yourself.

I’m unsure if you are essentially a troll or genuinely believe you are reporting on some huge msm lie, but either way I can honestly say you are helping no one here.
 
ergo...the side-effect of vaccine-related myocarditis is 'no big deal'. Such a small deal it is, that the vaccine is even encouraged to protect against it.

This is in stark contrast to McCullough's view, who sees vaccine-related myocarditis as a big deal. So big that he is worried that many young people may end up with permanent heart damage. Check out the podcast I linked for more.

Reminder: McCullough is a Cardiologist.



I stand by the following big deal vs big deal comparison:

Big Deal: many young people may end up with permanent heart damage.
no big deal: it's only mild & short-term and the vaccine more protects against it anyway.


You interpret the above as "very dishonest". What's interesting is the faux-morally outraged defensiveness in fighting the no big deal remark.

The only logical reading of which is...vaccine-related myocarditis just might be a big deal after all?

You are arguing that the two of them said something. They demonstrably did not say it, but you insist they did.

Ergo, you are dishonest.
 
I've very likely been exposed to covid the last few weeks as my girlfriend had it and we live together. Tested negative everyday though. Will I have fought it off and gained a degree of immunity and unlikely to get it in the near future? Or could I still catch it?
Same happened to me, though I was ill at the same time with the same symtoms, but i was better by the time we did tests as the symptoms weren't PCR worthy, I just thought we had a cold.

My assumption is that I had it and kicked it quick so I got an antibody test from Superdrug a few weeks later (there's some advice on the site for how long to wait can't remember the exact length of time) and I had them. Could've been vaccine induced as it was between doses 1 and 2, but either way they were there and gave me confidence, but it was more of an interest thing for me than anything else.

The test was £50 but getting the blood from my finger was very difficult and i used all the little needle devices to just about get enough - I'd probably go for the slightly more expensive option of going to the store and having a nurse do that for me if I ever need to do it again.
 
Thanks but no thanks!

I might end up catching it given its transmissibility but am certainly going to go out of my way to avoid doing so for a bit, especially when medical facilities are going to be overloaded.
I know Legs, just joking.

Issue is, everyone's getting exposed to Omicron. I think the people who are not getting it are either just asymptomatic or the boosters are doing their job in fighting it off completely which is great!

In the UK there's been a nasty cold going around and Omicron at the same time. Everyone I know has been careful yet most of us have caught one of the two. I've had both. The cold was worse than Omicron but I obviously don't have a vaccine against a cold, or the immunity from my previous COVID infection.

But unless you shut yourself away completely I think everyone is getting exposed to Omicron given how it spreads. Luckily, the vaccines work, as does previous infection.
 
I would agree that you have spammed this thread with countless links. In the last two days you have posted links to Joe Rogans podcast and then Toby Youngs lockdown sceptics site: these are not serious sources.
And...once again...I've also linked to New York Times, Guardian and dozens of sources you would find more ideologically agreeable.


I was specifically responding to your idiotic point, that the podcast you posted was so important because so many people watched it. Yes lots of people are seeking out this ‘alternative information’ as you call it. Just because people are looking for it does not make it information that stands up to any form of scientific scrutiny.
He has actual world-class scientists on...Harvard-learned etc.


For christs sake. You’re not a reporter. You’re not reporting anything, you’re spamming a thread on a football forum to encourage vaccine hesitancy. I have no idea why you would do this, but it will not encourage informed consent if the majority of the thread is you posting the same stuff over and over again and then countless people shouting at you.
And what are you doing on this thread?

We're all here to discuss the most significant news event of our lifetimes.

And I think we can encourage informed consent, but it's harder to sift through the info with you lot shouting.


I’m not convinced you’ve read the last link as doubt you have an account but it doesn’t say what you think it does. It’s about whether or not a fourth booster is worth having, the debate is ongoing.
I quoted an actual line from the piece, which is derived from the actual headline. Of course the whole piece is more detailed...that's why I linked it so people can read the whole thing and make their own mind up.

The piece is indicative of a general mainstream trend away from blind acceptance of the boosters. That's what I was highlighting.



Lastly, I implore you to please back off. It’s been a tough two years for everyone and I don’t think you are helping anyone here or yourself.
Frankly, your imploring I back off is more damaging than anything I've been saying.

If you're afraid of open debate of complex issues...then just don't take part. Don't attempt to shut it down just because you don't like it.

A hallmark of fascism is the suppression of opposition...we don't really want to go there.



I’m unsure if you are essentially a troll or genuinely believe you are reporting on some huge msm lie, but either way I can honestly say you are helping no one here.
This is worrying...are you ok? I mean, where do you get that idea? I've literally linked & quoted almost all the major MSM outlets during my posts on this thread, backing up my arguments.


It's like yous (the mob) are creating a caricature, then arguing against that caricature. Maybe it's easier to do that then argue my actual posts?
 
You are arguing that the two of them said something. They demonstrably did not say it, but you insist they did.

Ergo, you are dishonest.
Going round in circles here...but yes, they did say it wasn't a big deal. You can argue the semantics of no big deal, if you like.

No great concern? Not that bad? Acceptable side-effect?

Choose your wording.
 
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