Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

oh I know, I'd personally base it absolutely all on negative tests. I'm just saying, there's only one way to get the isolation period down for staff. Locking down does not do that, I don't know why people are acting like it will.

I guess maybe it's the route of:

Lockdown = less people getting it = less people in hospital = less worry about reduced staffing numbers.

 

[woomy]

Other element to the 5 day thing. Your rushing back somebody who has been ill. That person might also be mentally drained/exhausted. Might pass the tests, but can easily still be suffering from fatigue. Nope, back in you go.
The first person you look after is yourself. Can't pour from an empty cup.

 

[BlueToff]

Over 10,000 in hopital now with Covid.

This cant go on.

18 new deaths. Only 4 of them with or because of Omicron, which is now the dominant strain.

10-day lag for Omicron cases to end up in hospital. Given we've got 210k Omicron cases (confirmed, the actual number will be 3 or 4x that), then you'd have thought we'd be seeing a lot more than 700-odd people in hospital, wouldn't you?

The issue atm is Delta cases from 2-3 weeks ago coming into hospital on top of that. But Omicron cases now account for 93% of new COVID cases in hospitals. And we know that many of those people won't need long hospital stays or end up in critical care.

 

[BlueToff]

I guess maybe it's the route of:

Lockdown = less people getting it = less people in hospital = less worry about reduced staffing numbers.

Yeah, and I get that logic, but it wouldn't see an immediate improvement.

I said, they should have locked down ahead of time, early December. Doing so now... it's chasing the tail after the horse has bolted.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[BlueToff]

Other element to the 5 day thing. Your rushing back somebody who has been ill. That person might also be mentally drained/exhausted. Might pass the tests, but can easily still be suffering from fatigue. Nope, back in you go.
The first person you look after is yourself. Can't pour from an empty cup.

I'm not saying they should do it, I'm asking if they will consider it, that's all.

They moved it down to 7 days, maybe that'll be that. But there is only one way to quickly stop asymptomatic staff having to isolate (and if they're asymptomatic, they haven't been ill)

 

[Nymzee]

Yeah, and I get that logic, but it wouldn't see an immediate improvement.

I said, they should have locked down ahead of time, early December. Doing so now... it's chasing the tail after the horse has bolted.

I mean I don't think we'll lockdown at all. The bosses need the income and we've managed now without lockdowns and most restrictions for many months when a deadlier strain was king.

 

[BlueToff]

Piers Corbyn needs punting into the sun

 

[BlueToff]

I mean I don't think we'll lockdown at all. The bosses need the income and we've managed now without lockdowns and most restrictions for many months when a deadlier strain was king.

Depends if they bow to media pressure for lockdown, with the same media then immediately twisting it to 'when will we get out of lockdown'.

That's not to defend how useless the government are.

If they're going to shut things down, then they need full support. I wouldn't be against them capping capacity on events, things like that. It's crap but sensible. Full lockdown or anything close to it is mad when you look at the evidence there with Omicron.

 

[Neiler]

That's Ireland and maybe they have different rules. But here you only isolate if you have symptoms. Then it is lateral and PCR test time. Assuming you are double jabbed.

Its 10 days over here (Ireland) if you test positive, if your an asymptomatic close contact, you isolate for five days from being informed and you have to have 3 negative antigen one done tests every days, so really your at least 7 days out of work, just as a close contact . Your off for a PCR if you have symptoms, but can return if you have a negative PCR - happened for me - missed three days in Nov after being sent home with a cold. Can’t see us changing anytime soon, we’re very conservative, nor should we far to risky.

 

[BlueToff]

As the virus burns through our country and tens of thousands die, just look to Japan.

It didn't have to be this way, it really didn't.

10s of thousands won't die, unless Omicron suddenly becomes much more deadly here than in any other country. That's kind of the point.

Before anyone jumps in, yes I know 10s of thousands have already died and that's horrendous.

 

[woomy]

I think you can tell. The issue of staffing and their mental health is an important one for me.
We can't rush people back in. We are not machines. Yes we choose this profession. But we are not robot's.
Staff are doing extra as it is. If they are poorly. Let them heal. Frontline NHS staff are still people. We sometimes need a rest. We might not be physically ill, but mentally. Those 2 days can make a whole world of difference.

 

[CharliePotato]

But you're not risking everyone with cold-like symptoms are you? Some get it much, much worse. You are thick as a pig though so not surprised you're still struggling with this. Can't even spell knock right.

Not really mate, some get it much worse but a tiny percentage, what about the nock on effect this is having on other sick people, either diagnosed or otherwise due to missed appointments or unable to be seen because of staff shortages due to sniffles. Itssabsolutely shocking what’s going on, you call me thick as pig, there is 25 years olds out there missing out on cancer treatments because of this. You absolute melt.

Honestly it’s absolutely disgusting.

 

[BlueToff]

I think you can tell. The issue of staffing and their mental health is an important one for me.
We can't rush people back in. We are not machines. Yes we choose this profession. But we are not robot's.
Staff are doing extra as it is. If they are poorly. Let them heal. Frontline NHS staff are still people. We sometimes need a rest. We might not be physically ill, but mentally. Those 2 days can make a whole world of difference.

I have to point out mate, this was very specifically in regards to staff who are asymptomatic.

Staff who are ill are ill and need as long as they need to recover.

 

[Nymzee]

I think you can tell. The issue of staffing and their mental health is an important one for me.
We can't rush people back in. We are not machines. Yes we choose this profession. But we are not robot's.
Staff are doing extra as it is. If they are poorly. Let them heal. Frontline NHS staff are still people. We sometimes need a rest. We might not be physically ill, but mentally. Those 2 days can make a whole world of difference.

Plus mentally tired people can make mistakes in all professions.