Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

Not really mate, some get it much worse but a tiny percentage, what about the nock on effect this is having on other sick people, either diagnosed or otherwise due to missed appointments or unable to be seen because of staff shortages due to sniffles. Itssabsolutely shocking what’s going on, you call me thick as pig, there is 25 years olds out there missing out on cancer treatments because of this. You absolute melt.

Honestly it’s absolutely disgusting.

Would you want someone with cancer to be treated by someone with a "sniffle"?

 

[CharliePotato]

18 new deaths. Only 4 of them with or because of Omicron, which is now the dominant strain.

10-day lag for Omicron cases to end up in hospital. Given we've got 210k Omicron cases (confirmed, the actual number will be 3 or 4x that), then you'd have thought we'd be seeing a lot more than 700-odd people in hospital, wouldn't you?

The issue atm is Delta cases from 2-3 weeks ago coming into hospital on top of that. But Omicron cases now account for 93% of new COVID cases in hospitals. And we know that many of those people won't need long hospital stays or end up in critical care.

0.04% of deaths due to Omnicron then.

Unbelievable.

 

[CharliePotato]

Would you want someone with cancer to be treated by someone with a "sniffle"?

Don’t treat them at all then. Delay it like what is happening.

Shambles.

 

[Nymzee]

Don’t treat them at all then. Delay it like what is happening.

Shambles.

You didn't answer my question.

 

[CharliePotato]

You didn't answer my question.

My answer is yes, I would want them treated by someone with the sniffles with rather than left. Too right.

 

[mill]

Not really mate, some get it much worse but a tiny percentage, what about the nock on effect this is having on other sick people, either diagnosed or otherwise due to missed appointments or unable to be seen because of staff shortages due to sniffles. Itssabsolutely shocking what’s going on, you call me thick as pig, there is 25 years olds out there missing out on cancer treatments because of this. You absolute melt.

Honestly it’s absolutely disgusting.

Are people actually missing out on treatment though?

My mum was diagnosed, operated on, received chemo and recovered all during full lockdown last year. My auntie is having dialysis 3 times a week due to kidney failure.

I’m not sure cancer or dialysis patients are missing treatments.

 

[Nymzee]

My answer is yes, I would want them treated by someone with the sniffles with rather than left. Too right.

Well if you're happy for cancer patients to be treated by people with COVID then there's not much use anyone trying to discuss things with you.

 

[bullybeef]

Thats what a vaccine is supposed to do. Plus teaching your lazy immune system to recognise and deal with it.

This really is A B C stuff.

My immune system is anything but lazy my friend.

No need to be so pompous either I buddy.

 

[Neiler]

oh I know, I'd personally base it absolutely all on negative tests. I'm just saying, there's only one way to get the isolation period down for staff. Locking down does not do that, I don't know why people are acting like it will.

Testing is the only the way mate, you should be clear before retuning 100%. I think the virus is to variable to put an arbitrary number on it to be honest and if you do there should be a fail safe in it, I wouldn’t be minimising it. One of the hardest thing to hold working in the area with frail patients, is knowing you yourself are a ticking time bomb and a potential risk to them. It’s a hard thing to hold and you feel at times a heavy responsibility.

If I go to a patients room or bay, I have to sign, date and log time arrival and leving. Full scrubbed up, with surgical mask on all day. If I test positive, those patients are into 10 day isolation and testing themselves, often very stressful for them and their families - to say nothing of the damage to the therapeutic relationship with them when you come back, while more likely then not, the whole ward goes into lock down, staff stay in the one area and families aren’t allowed visit and everyone’s movements are restricted.

When you actually weigh it all up, the current staff isolation protocols is actually more respurcful, then thee resources and impact of a full on outbreak.

 

[CharliePotato]

Are people actually missing out on treatment though?

My mum was diagnosed, operated on, received chemo and recovered all during full lockdown last year. My auntie is having dialysis 3 times a week due to kidney failure.

I’m not sure cancer or dialysis patients are missing treatments.

I’m done.

 

[CharliePotato]

Well if you're happy for cancer patients to be treated by people with COVID then there's not much use anyone trying to discuss things with you.

I know honestly I’m out of this thread.

Makes me fume reading the amount of complete patheticness you absolute melts post.

 

[AdamEFC]

Surely it’s not the highest then if it includes 5 days of data from NI?

 

[Nymzee]

I know honestly I’m out of this thread.

Makes me fume reading the amount of complete patheticness you absolute melts post.

I think I can safely say, on behalf of GOT, goodbye and please don't return.

 

[roydo]

My immune system is anything but lazy my friend.

No need to be so pompous either I buddy.

Immune systems are inherently lazy. Anyone who has packed in smoking will tell you that.

 

[BlueToff]

0.04% of deaths due to Omnicron then.

Unbelievable.

Yeah but if hospitalisations do shoot up at 2k per day then that's unsustainable. I doubt they will though.

Time of year has to be taken into account. How many more people have ended up in hospital in the last few days compared to previous weeks is going to be more. That possibly means the incidental rate of +ve covid tests will have gone up too though we need to await data on that.

There's no doubt that this is the start of a really sharp upward trend in hospitalisations but going off what we (as in what is publically available) know about Omicron so far, then they should not be at an unmanageable level, as long as staffing shortages can be kept manageable (which is really the big issue).