Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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@woomy and any others that liked the response, I'm not saying it should be done on pie in the sky

Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others. The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after. Therefore, people who test positive should isolate for 5 days and, if asymptomatic at that time, they may leave isolation if they can continue to mask for 5 days to minimize the risk of infecting others.


Now I think 7 days as it currently is, with successive negative lateral flow results, is pretty sensible. But going into lockdown doesn't do anything to stop healthcare workers having to isolate, given the abundance of evidence that COVID is being spread more in those settings.

So the only thing that can be done to stop key workers like that needing to isolate is to... shorten the amount of time they have to isolate?
Seen a lot pushback on the latest CDC guidance because it doesn’t apparently include the negative tests bit.
 
Call me a cynic but I recall tests running out the last time Covid was running wild.

No tests = no data
No data = government apathy and neglect

The government don’t care about the people in icu’s or those dying.

Let it rip and protect the economy.
Let the hospitals/NHS suffer and the bodies pile high.
 
Well the CDC in the US are now saying 5 days isolation with two negative tests is fine.

So that's why I said it.

The priority should be on healthcare workers being able to work, shouldn't it? Not about them being a special entity.
The practicalities of that really don't work though.
You have symptoms. Day 1
Assuming day 2 is PCR test. Of your lucky enough to find a site doing them.
Day 3 positive result.
That gives you 2 days.

Also depends on what test has to be negative. PCR. Your not getting those 2 done in the time frame. You would be sayingz right day 3 just got my result. Must go for a test again today, and then one tomorrow. It's just not practical.

If we are saying Lateral? That is a risky game. Plus very easy to gurantee a fail on those. If as a healthcare worker you had any doubts, I would be ensuring I produced a failed test.
For me it's just not worth the risk.
I can see the need to look at it. I really can. But if staffing had been sorted and a mass recruitment drive for hca's had been implemented, then we might be in a better position. We had 18 months to come up with a plan for staffing issues. The government have failed the service.
 
Your right. You do have staff isolating with the sniffles. You also have staff who are suffering. But that is not the point of isolating though is it? The point is so you don't infect others. Those others may not have the sniffles.

Now I fully get what you are saying. But if you have a rule, it has to be a rule for all. The other side to the 5 day thing. Could staff then turn around and say something along the lines of, your putting staff at increased risk and anybody else who comes I to contact with them. Your essentially endangering NHS staff and their families even more.
Yep for most it is a cold. But would you live with yourself if you went back to work and infected somebody, who went on to be seriously ill or worse all because some politician said 5 days, cause they didn't think through staffing issues in the summer.
They have to make a decision soon, a risk of infecting someone with cold like symptoms or continue to put the health care system at a massive strain backlongging so many serious conditions and operations. They say covid is putting the NHS under strain, having staff off over minor symptoms is most likely what is putting the system under strain. It’s madness, sickening.

I’m sorry but it has to be damage limitations here the nock on effect it is having is absolutely massive, staff staying of work and isololating over a stong cold is delaying cancer treatments, diagnosis of so many other serious illnesses, old and vulnerable can’t even get to see a GP, it’s absolutely insane.

Honestly beyond comprehension what is happening here,
 
But is that safe for the people they work with? Negatives on 6 & 7 after symptoms isn't bad. Maybe 5 & 6? I don't know many people that are popping negative LFD's before Day 5 personally.
I just have - today. And I was negative on Boxing Day as I tested. May have been positive on Monday though, I don't know.

But my PCR came back positive today. I'll see what the LFT says tomorrow. Obviously I'm still isolating until at least Sunday.
 
They have to make a decision soon, a risk of infecting someone with cold like symptoms or continue to put the health care system at a massive strain backlongging so many serious conditions and operations. They say covid is putting the NHS under strain, having staff off over minor symptoms is most likely what is putting the system under strain. It’s madness, sickening.

I’m sorry but it has to be damage limitations here the nock on effect it is having is absolutely massive, staff staying of work and isololating over a stong cold is delaying cancer treatments, diagnosis of so many other serious illnesses, old and vulnerable can’t even get to see a GP, it’s absolutely insane.

Honestly beyond comprehension what is happening here,

But you're not risking everyone with cold-like symptoms are you? Some get it much, much worse. You are thick as a pig though so not surprised you're still struggling with this. Can't even spell knock right.
 
The vaccines clearly don’t stop you getting the virus, they just improve your chances of surviving.

How many more boosters will we need. When will it stop?

Thats what a vaccine is supposed to do. Plus teaching your lazy immune system to recognise and deal with it.

This really is A B C stuff.
 
@woomy and any others that liked the response, I'm not saying it should be done on pie in the sky

Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others. The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after. Therefore, people who test positive should isolate for 5 days and, if asymptomatic at that time, they may leave isolation if they can continue to mask for 5 days to minimize the risk of infecting others.


Now I think 7 days as it currently is, with successive negative lateral flow results, is pretty sensible. But going into lockdown doesn't do anything to stop healthcare workers having to isolate, given the abundance of evidence that COVID is being spread more in those settings.

So the only thing that can be done to stop key workers like that needing to isolate is to... shorten the amount of time they have to isolate?

To be honest mate. I think the CDC advice is stupid and very risky.

“Wear a mask for three days after 5 days isolation, just in case” - crackpot stuff.

You need to look at the cultural context, influences and pressures too, in the US healthcare is a big money spinner , while welfare is very different too. All those things are in the mix and competing with public health in my view.
 
To be honest mate. I think the CDC advice is stupid and very risky.

“Wear a mask for three days after 5 days isolation, just in case” - crackpot stuff.

You need to look at the cultural context, influences and pressures too, in the US healthcare is a big money spinner , while welfare is very different too. All those things are in the mix and competing with public health in my view.
oh I know, I'd personally base it absolutely all on negative tests. I'm just saying, there's only one way to get the isolation period down for staff. Locking down does not do that, I don't know why people are acting like it will.
 
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