Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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What’s that got to do with anything though? Who’s actually seriously claiming that the vaccine does that?

Do you agree with segregating sections of society on medical grounds to protect the NHS?

Yes - and we've done it during this pandemic (where elderly patients were turfed out to care homes in the first wave, and where various other people had their procedures cancelled because of COVID patients over the first and second / third waves).

The difference with this is that the vast majority of those unvaccinated people taking up space in hospital would not be there if they had the jab. They should still be treated, but if it (again) comes down to cancelling someone's much needed procedure or treating some idiot who thought it was the common cold then I really don't see why the latter should be prioritized.
 
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Yes - and we've done it during this pandemic (where elderly patients were turfed out to care homes in the first wave, and where various other people had their procedures cancelled because of COVID patients over the first and second / third waves).

The difference with this is that the vast majority of those unvaccinated people taking up space in hospital would not be there if they had the jab. They should still be treated, but if it (again) comes down to cancelling someone's much needed procedure or treating some idiot who thought it was the common cold then I really don't see why the latter should be prioritized.

The vast majority of obese people taking up hospital beds wouldn’t be there if they weren’t obese. Some of them in hospital with covid despite being triple jabbed, because they’re obese. We could go round in circles forever with this one.
 
The vast majority of obese people taking up hospital beds wouldn’t be there if they weren’t obese. Some of them in hospital with covid despite being triple jabbed, because they’re obese. We could go round in circles forever with this one.
So what you're saying is fat people should be forcibly injected with class A drugs until they're super thin? The thread has taken a dark turn I won't lie.
 
So what you're saying is fat people should be forcibly injected with class A drugs until they're super thin? The thread has taken a dark turn I won't lie.

I’m not saying that at all, I’m saying the logic of segregating people out of society because they’re unvaccinated is the same as segregating people out of society because they’re obese. I disagree with both.

I agree the thread has taken a dark turn ever since @Diogenes the Cynic started wishing death upon the human beings for being unvaccinated.
 
See the thing is mate this is true yet why are SAGE and other advisors seemingly advising governments based on it not being less severe?



Because it's far more transmissable, the case numbers are alarming and they aren't sure how that will impact the health system in the coming weeks. Like, the messaging isn't particularly unclear
 
The vast majority of obese people taking up hospital beds wouldn’t be there if they weren’t obese. Some of them in hospital with covid despite being triple jabbed, because they’re obese. We could go round in circles forever with this one.
Obese people aren’t contagious. If 100 obese people were admitted to hospital that is 100 people that have to be treated. If 100 covid positive patients were admitted to hospital then the pressure on the NHS increases.

Once again this has been said many times, the vaccines don’t stop you getting covid but they reduce the risk of getting it. And they reduce the risk of needing to go to hospital if you do get it.
 
Obese people aren’t contagious. If 100 obese people were admitted to hospital that is 100 people that have to be treated. If 100 covid positive patients were admitted to hospital then the pressure on the NHS increases.

Once again this has been said many times, the vaccines don’t stop you getting covid but they reduce the risk of getting it. And they reduce the risk of needing to go to hospital if you do get it.

But if you aren’t at risk of needing to go to hospital in the first place, why do you need to have it? What if you have natural immunity from having the virus too, meaning that you are just as unlikely to catch it as a fully vaccinated person?
 
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