Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Thanks Legs - So basically the reported admission figure should be about a quarter of what it currently is
It's being a bit disingenuous with the data
Mass rapid tests in Liverpool cut hospital stays by a third
City project that used lateral flow tests to monitor population took pressure off NHS at critical time
Liverpool conducted the first city-wide testing scheme using rapid antigen tests in November last year, amid debate about whether or not lateral flow tests (LFTs) were accurate enough to detect the virus in asymptomatic carriers.
It expanded the project to cover the whole of the Liverpool region, offering people LFTs whether or not they had symptoms. Key workers did daily tests before going to work to show they were not infectious.
Now an analysis has shown that it was more successful than Liverpool’s scientists and public health teams had anticipated, after they compared Covid cases and outcomes in the region with other parts of England.
Tbf I don’t think they are trying to be deliberately misleading, just takes a lot of background work to update stats daily.
Fwiw the UK provide the most detailed and frequent data of any country I’ve seen, wish my local California data was half as good!
LFs really do get a bad rap.Mass lateral flow testing cut the number of people needing hospital treatment for Covid by 32% and relieved significant pressure on the NHSwhen the measures were piloted last year, a study has shown.Mass rapid tests in Liverpool cut hospital stays by a third
City project that used lateral flow tests to monitor population took pressure off NHS at critical timewww.theguardian.com
Liverpool conducted the first city-wide testing scheme using rapid antigen tests in November last year, amid debate about whether or not lateral flow tests (LFTs) were accurate enough to detect the virus in asymptomatic carriers.
It expanded the project to cover the whole of the Liverpool region, offering people LFTs whether or not they had symptoms. Key workers did daily tests before going to work to show they were not infectious.
Now an analysis has shown that it was more successful than Liverpool’s scientists and public health teams had anticipated, after they compared Covid cases and outcomes in the region with other parts of England.
And, this isn't meaning to hit out at people who are doing PCRs to be safe, I just don't see, unless you've got a positive LF test or you know for certain you've been in contact with someone who was positive (as the posters in here today have) you'd want to risk having to isolate, especially at this time of year. If you're double jabbed and/or boosted, even moreso.
I at least have that knowledge. That I'm fully vaxxed, all my family are, my mum, dad, nana are all boosted, I'll be boosted come Dec 29th, and all of my friends are fully vaccinated and/or boosted too.
It does show when you use sites like ourworldindata how good the UK's records are. Germany, for example, do not publish hospitalisation numbers freely to ourworldindata it seems
I'm sure Germany have all the info they need, I don't mean it in that way, but when you're looking to compare trends it can be difficult. Even with Norway's daily numbers, the figures jumped all over the place.
The only qualifier I’d add to that though is on Day 5 that PCR can really help make sure you are isolating on Day 6 where, depending on when during the day you take the test, you could have anywhere between a clear, a faint red or a solid red line on the rapid test.
Doing the rapid test right before you meet people vs hours before could make a material difference with Omicron.
I can't really get my head round all of this TBH
My partner tested positive on wednesday - She has zero symptoms.
I tested negative on wednesday - I have cold symptoms (Slightly sore, dry throat, runny nose) and have tested negative on each daily PCR test since then
Am i definitely Covid negative or it just waiting to come and slap me in the face on christmas eve?
Its a system relying almost entirely on human behaviour so would be very fallible and wouldn't work in my opinion. Its not in the British psyche, rightly or wrongly, to stay indoors and isolate for a week if you have mild cold/flu symptoms.
We would also need a long term full lockdown to get to case rates where contact tracing can be effective.
so difficult because this Omicron variant is the exact symptoms of a cold and it isn't like you're definitely going to get worse - you probably will just have a cold.
Klopp has said it just now. Thiago doesn't have symptoms, but has tested positive. Henderson has symptoms (a cold) but has tested negative. So technically, Henderson would have been able to be play today. Just Liverpool for obvious reasons decided against that.
Confusing isn’t it and tbh I don’t think I’m qualified to give an answer.
Can only say that if was in your situation to avoid any doubt I’d just assume I had it until was both non symptomatic and clear on the rapid test - sucks but I’d comfort myself with knowing would avoid passing on a cold or worse to others for Christmas.
Appreciate that not everyone is in a position to be able to make that sort of choice though, especially work wise.
I'm gonna lateral flow on Tuesday eve before I go to meet friends for dinner and then on Wednesday eve before I head out too.
Will LF on xmas eve as well.
But after that... we'll probably be in lockdown FFS
Will LF on xmas eve as well.
But after that... we'll probably be in lockdown FFS
I'm gonna lateral flow on Tuesday eve before I go to meet friends for dinner and then on Wednesday eve before I head out too.
Will LF on xmas eve as well.
But after that... we'll probably be in lockdown FFS
Did you put the wrong emoji in by mistake there?
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