Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Lockdown clearly reduced cases that can't be denied. If it happens the effectiveness of the next one is going to be a challenge due to the new variant and a substantial percentage of the population not willing to comply.

It's not just the anti vaxxers loonies this time either, it seems like a lot of triple vaccinated people aren't willing to lockdown.
 
This is what the UK Health Security Agency said about the problems people are having today ordering lateral flow tests from the government’s website. A spokesperson said:

Everyone who needs a lateral flow test can collect test kits – either at their local pharmacy, some community sites and some schools and colleges.
Due to exceptionally high demand, ordering lateral flow tests on gov.uk has been temporarily suspended to fulfil existing orders.
Information about how to collect a lateral flow test from a nearby pharmacy is available on the NHS website here.
 
That has been my point all along though - there are alternatives to lockdowns or even to endless vaccination campaigns, and the government after nearly two years of failure should really be doing them.

Yet when anyone suggests them it’s “you’re in favour of lockdowns!” despite them making lockdowns less likely to be needed.
In the broadcast last night was there a recommendation to do a lateral flow test when meeting up with family/friends , especially those old or vulnerable? Wasn’t in the clip I saw.
 
Yes, they did. When we came out of both lockdowns we were at high 000s / low 0000s cases across the entire UK.
Just playing devils advocate, that's all. When we came out of lockdown last summer, cases went up to a daily average of 32k.
So yes, lockdown cut cases, whilst in lockdown, but did it just delay people getting it? Which then you can argue, was it worth it. If as is likely most people had the Rona at least once what was the point of locking down in the summer if all that happened was you just delayed the inevitable.

Don't get me wrong. Deaths, bad and all that. But did lockdown actually achieve anything. Unfortunately we will never really know the answer. Easy to say yes it did, easy to say no it didn't.
All we do know is they cut cases and then cases skyrocketed when we came out of lockdowns.

Edit. Actually at one point 48k new cases a day at one point.
 
Just playing devils advocate, that's all. When we came out of lockdown last summer, cases went up to a daily average of 32k.
So yes, lockdown cut cases, whilst in lockdown, but did it just delay people getting it? Which then you can argue, was it worth it. If as is likely most people had the Rona at least once what was the point of locking down in the summer if all that happened was you just delayed the inevitable.

Don't get me wrong. Deaths, bad and all that. But did lockdown actually achieve anything. Unfortunately we will never really know the answer. Easy to say yes it did, easy to say no it didn't.
All we do know is they cut cases and then cases skyrocketed when we came out of lockdowns.
Even if all it did was delay cases wouldn’t that still be very useful at times when healthcare service was overloaded? If instead of having 100 people to care for in one week there are 25 people to care for over four weeks that is a substantial improvement in daily case load and access to ventilators.

Also potentially means that illness within healthcare staff would be spread out more evenly too as less transmission from non work contacts.
 
This is what the UK Health Security Agency said about the problems people are having today ordering lateral flow tests from the government’s website. A spokesperson said:


Information about how to collect a lateral flow test from a nearby pharmacy is available on the NHS website here.

According to them it’s postal slots they’ve run out of.

Don’t ask who privatised the Royal Mail.
This actually makes sense - no point continuing taking orders if they'll take days to come when people can pick them up - otherwise they'll just spend a few days not taking the tests
 
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