I do think there has to be a limit on what jobs it's mandatory for
But if you're a frontline health care worker, then I think it ultimately comes with the territory.
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But if you're a frontline health care worker, then I think it ultimately comes with the territory.
Ok but this is a conversation that’s about the NHS making the decision to sack staff due to not having the vaccine so I really don’t understand what the relevance is here?
What is the simplest fact about it mate?
You are less likely to get covid if you are vaccinated than if you are not
Why have our covid case numbers been going up since 85% of the adult population have been vaccinated?
Because everyone can still catch covid. And we have no restrictions in place whatsoever. Respiratory viruses spread more in the winter. This is a study that wad published a couple of weeks ago.
EDIT: Don't know why the link has shown as that but if you click on it then it still works
TN Toffee
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American here. Must be nice to have made it all the way to 2021 before finding yourself in this position. Depending on the car that showed up, if you were injured in a not immediately life threatening way but bleeding everywhere, calling an Uber, ruining the inside of their car, and then simply buying them a new car might be more cost effective than being transported by ambulance.
Couple that with a new found lack of empathy for healthcare staff and the hell they are put under by covid, and recruitment issues or even just keeping staff will become bigger problems. It seems the premature death of others isn't the only think people are willing to accept if it prevents them having to suffer the torture of showing a QR code before entering a venue.
The ludicrous conditions healthcare staff are just expected to cope with should be a much much louder conversation when discussing thresholds for how tightly covid is being dealt with. I've no doubt though in this thread any problems doctors or nurses are seeing will be blamed on a daily sport headline
Salaries across healthcare could do with raising, but like I said, it's a labour intensive sector and society seems unwilling to do daily basic things to reduce the demands "we" place on it, so the costs are only going to go up and up even without paying staff what I suspect most would regard as a fairer salary. I mean the Covid pressures at the moment are less down to the virus itself and more down to the idiocy of people who refuse to do incredibly simple things to protect themselves and others. We abuse the NHS massively.
I'm sorry, but no, not for me. These are "healthcare professionals" who we seem perfectly happy to not believe in the science that "healthcare professionals" are advocating (and quite rightly advocating because the science is tremendous) for the rest of society. If they don't believe in treatments then they should give their head a wobble and stop pretending they're the victims in all this.
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I mean wow!!!
Maybe everyone who’s been vaccinated should give their heads a wobble and think ‘why do I need a booster’ or ‘why am I in hospital with Covid after been vaccinated?’ It’s people like you that needs to give their head a wobble not front line staff who are refusing it, they’re actually seeing what’s going on with their own eyes, I’m sure if it was as bad as it’s getting made out to be then they would have it in a heartbeat.
Its incredible really, that people inject stuff in their body but misinterpret what it is actually does.
The vaccines weren't designed to cure Covid or stop you getting it, they were designed to minimize hospitalization and death.
Disagree mate and im not antivax - have had my three doses.
Why not make it mandatory for everyone then, you said last week you were hesitant about getting a booster mate - thats a fundamental human right you are entitled to but you would be in favor of denying others the same right. Why decant personal agency and bodily integrity and rights for one cohort of society and not the other.
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At least give the public the choice. I'd 100% be happy to be treated by an unvaccinated health worker, it wouldn't even cross my mind - I'm well aware any person with any number of vaccines can pass it on to me. Better than no health worker at all also but I also just don't care. Not logistically possible probably but there'll be plenty like me who'd be fine with it. Instead we're being put at risk of receiving no healthcare instead
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I'm meant to be going abroad next August but wont be getting a booster jab and will be telling the company to GTF if they are demanding I have one to fly.
Maybe tell me what this shooting pain is in my arm that developed 2 days after my 2nd jab over 4 months ago you Covid blinkered gits then maybe I'll get a 3rd dose.
Maybe tell me what this shooting pain is in my arm that developed 2 days after my 2nd jab over 4 months ago you Covid blinkered gits then maybe I'll get a 3rd dose.
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