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I’m not saying we should lockdown. Im saying if you haven’t done everything in your limited power to do what you can to prevent it, then don’t complain.
I don’t think we should go into lockdown unless the health services are completely overwhelmed and it’s affecting things on a wider scale. But then that gets into resourcing of the NHS which is another thing altogether.
I think its two key figures mate where we are in the pandemic no of deaths and healthcare capacity.
The mental jump i think is the vaccines are a large % of the answer not the full one - the messaging around the vaccines being the answer in the UK politically hasn't helped and understandably people are upset and resistant to measures because of that. Doesn't change the infection context though,
I think we need to accept that Covid will be feature of the landscape come winter every year, like flu, flu season doesn't concern the majority of population, but ic an tell you in health care we dread it every year. Seems sensible to me that every winter we can be prepared, masks, passes, social distance, boost the vulnerable etc and keep society going, for little inconvenience, that the thing i dont get on peoples aversion to restrictions, its not like they are being denied fundamental human rights, just being asked to put a mask on in the winter, to keep society and health services going.
It may well be like this every winter and that seems like a mental transition for people, ive been saying it since the summer that things would deteriorate in the winter - we all should have been more prepared really rather then scrambling.
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tsubaki
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Why? We’ve not done it well at all (despite the fortunes spent on it), Europe has done better than we have (and had better outcomes), and the Far East have done much better (thanks to lessons learned from SARS).
Id see some of the milder measures, like masks, passes, social distancing etc - as more enabling society to function rather then not, i agree lockdown are the nuclear solutions we have to try and avoid only in desperation.
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ForeverBlue92
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Just in time for Christmas like clock work.
The media are a law to themselves with the scaremongering well I say that but they are balls deep in the Governments back pocket.
BlueStevie35
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Had to order a home PCR test last night as my recent chest infection came back in a big way start of the week, causing me to be sent home from work yesterday afternoon and call in sick today and likely tomorrow. Still pulling a negative lateral flow test so I’m hoping it’s just viral and not turning into COVID
Id hate to think where we would be without the vaccines, i saw some modeling of it yesterday - scary!
Thats the thing everyone has their own personal expectation of what they thought the vaccine would bring, "freedom day" and the like, a sense this is over. Again i think measures have to be the least restrictive possible, to avoid the most restrictive going forward, but they are the sensible play and do make a difference, that's a choice for every government.
Look at NI yesterday, they are forced into introducing measures because of the health service being put under pressure, they haven't closed anything and are trying not to, just asking people to comply with a measure. The two things protection and keeping society open can be maximized and the two things can live together - to avoid nuclear options, if done timely.
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Absolute bollocks
efcfanwirral
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We found when the girlfriend had it, with a lot less illness than a chest infection would give, lateral flow was spot on and the line got fainter as she felt better too. I was skeptical of them til that point but was actually impressed. Hers was actually just a normal cold, we only took those tests because we had a festival booked that weekend, none of the symptoms remotely qualified for a PCR at that point.
so I reckon you'll get a negative
ForeverBlue92
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Its complete scaremongering now - the media need a public enquiry put onto them over how they have acted over the last 18 months.
Viruses mutate all the time they'll be picking up many changes in the labs however until one becomes much nore deadly or can avoid the vaccines they dont need reporting on to scaremonger people into rushing to get a booster shot or calling for restrictions.
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efcfanwirral
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But those measures that were hailed as this amazing miraculous cure have clearly failed across Europe. And social distancing absolutely destroys businesses, if that's every year then much of hospitality will be gone. I think our thoughts that we can "control" a virus like this are being proven untrue
I do think we'll end up doing everything europe is doing though
bluelife
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Honestly not sure why we bother with a science budget in this country when you lot are readily available on this forum.
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