Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Deleted member 48881]

The majority of polls tend to show public support for lockdown.

Lol

 

[ToffeeTim]

My sister is an NHS nurse and is as anti-lockdown as you can get.

Most people are against lockdowns/restrictions and most people are for vaccines. That should be the view that is represented most in the media because it is shared by the vast majority of the population.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Lol

I always find it surprising too. Another lockdown would be absolutely horrendous.

 

[Ballymoney1]

My sister is an NHS nurse and is as anti-lockdown as you can get.

Same, I am a frontline NHS health worker. I am very much opposed to any form of lockdown.

 

[tsubaki]

Most people are against lockdowns/restrictions and most people are for vaccines. That should be the view that is represented most in the media because it is shared by the vast majority of the population.

TBF that is most people’s views because that’s how the media have presented it - as if it’s a binary choice.

Lockdowns (at least national lockdowns) shouldn’t be required anyway but they did have to take place because of massive failures of policy, indeed hopefully they’ll be the biggest government failures most of us will ever witness.

The media (and government) has instead mostly convinced people that lockdowns are a policy in and of itself, just another tool in the government’s toolbox. As if it’s lockdowns, vaccines or nothing. It’s a profoundly dishonest stance and one that should shame even them.

 

[MikeH72]

TBF that is most people’s views because that’s how the media have presented it - as if it’s a binary choice.

Lockdowns (at least national lockdowns) shouldn’t be required anyway but they did have to take place because of massive failures of policy, indeed hopefully they’ll be the biggest government failures most of us will ever witness.

The media (and government) has instead mostly convinced people that lockdowns are a policy in and of itself, just another tool in the government’s toolbox. As if it’s lockdowns, vaccines or nothing. It’s a profoundly dishonest stance and one that should shame even them.

I honestly believe these brainwashing tactics are starting to wear off on the general public now, thankfully. The best piece of advice I try to give anyone to protect their mental health these days is turn away from mainstream news media.

 

[Dan Tanner]

The majority of polls tend to show public support for lockdown.

I've just had a quick look around online, Mori, Yougov, the national papers especially the usual suspects that delight in terrorising the old-uns i.e. Mail/Express. I genuinely don't see anything recent out there supporting this.

Is this a fellow down the pub told me type thing.

 

[grandjoeblue]

I've just had a quick look around online, Mori, Yougov, the national papers especially the usual suspects that delight in terrorising the old-uns i.e. Mail/Express. I genuinely don't see anything recent out there supporting this.

Is this a fellow down the pub told me type thing.

I looked just then and most recent support for lockdown tends to be around 30-40% but in the past it was much higher.

Even 30% is still high though.

 

[grandjoeblue]

TBF that is most people’s views because that’s how the media have presented it - as if it’s a binary choice.

Lockdowns (at least national lockdowns) shouldn’t be required anyway but they did have to take place because of massive failures of policy, indeed hopefully they’ll be the biggest government failures most of us will ever witness.

The media (and government) has instead mostly convinced people that lockdowns are a policy in and of itself, just another tool in the government’s toolbox. As if it’s lockdowns, vaccines or nothing. It’s a profoundly dishonest stance and one that should shame even them.

Difficult though as we all know there has been no effective test and trace system anywhere in the western world and the countries who still have mask mandates in Europe are experiencing massive rises in case numbers.

 

[tsubaki]

Difficult though as we all know there has been no effective test and trace system anywhere in the western world and the countries who still have mask mandates in Europe are experiencing massive rises in case numbers.

Good qualifier there, “in the western world”.

That said there are still plenty test and trace systems in the western world better than ours.

 

[Dan Tanner]

I looked just then and most recent support for lockdown tends to be around 30-40% but in the past it was much higher.

Even 30% is still high though.

It's not a majority though, and even then it's just a poll. Some of those Express/Mail paper ones are laughable. We asked 2123 people, (no breakdown of age/circumstances/location etc).
The results can be interpreted and reported whichever way the paper feels the wind needs to blow to increase its circulation, regardless of the fear it creates.

Always puts me in mind of the brilliant Yes Minister

 

[BlueToff]

It was meant to sound that way because it was in response to the idea that if everyone was vaccinated we'd have no talk of restrictions - the constant demonising and scapegoating of a section of society is very very worrying and now it's ramping up again I'm convinced we're heading down a dark path..

I still think we're going to be testing the theory out, these sorts of measures tend to have a way of slowly spreading through the Western countries once they start. I'm guessing to be seen to do something the government will be "cancelling Christmas" for those without the vaccine here. Though it's unenforceable because we don't have enough police which is the only time that is a positive...

For me, as I'll be becoming unvaccinated again when I don't get my booster, I'll be locking myself down also if/when these measures come in. You only have as many rights as those with the least in society. Same for not using the covid pass if it goes vaccine only (and I feel bad enough using it now).

I mean, I'll get a booster if it lets me do things but the thing for me is that's literally the only reason I'd get it.

I've had COVID, had two jabs and I'm healthy. COVID knocked me for six and I'm still not fully recovered but I don't live my life in fear of getting it again. From everything I've read up on, at my age and given I have no underlying conditions, my body will be producing anti-bodies from this thing that are going to stop me getting it again for some time - that's only going to be helped by the vaccines - and if I do get it again, it's very unlikely to be anywhere close to how bad it was the first time (and while I was ill, I was never in danger of needing to go to hospital).

 

[tsubaki]

I honestly believe these brainwashing tactics are starting to wear off on the general public now, thankfully. The best piece of advice I try to give anyone to protect their mental health these days is turn away from mainstream news media.

TBF they’ve been wearing off for years already, just look at newspaper circulation figures. I just wish more people were paying attention to what the government has actually done / not done though, rather than disappearing down disinformation holes.

 

[Neiler]

Health officials in the North are starting to waive red flags.

Stormont ministers to consider proposals for mandatory Covid passports for Northern Ireland

A modelling paper says even Covid-19 passports may not prevent hospitals from becoming overwhelmed.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[BlueToff]

Good qualifier there, “in the western world”.

That said there are still plenty test and trace systems in the western world better than ours.

even the countries in the east with those effective track and trace systems have had to go into strict lockdown, though