Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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tsubaki said:
Just - no. Herd immunity as a policy guarantees deaths, on a huge scale as we have seen.

No other disease has been managed by “let’s get as many people infected as possible”, for entirely sensible reasons. Doing it (even now after many have been vaccinated) has put thousands in hospital and killed hundreds. As a policy it is criminal.
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What is the alternative in terms of the broader scheme of things to get out of this in the long run?

It's vaccination - i.e. getting people immune to the thing. Not hiding away from it.

Another way for people to have immunity from stuff is to have it. I'm not saying 'let's get as many people infected as possible' is a smart idea, I don't think it's the right thing to do. I do think the tories are treating the younger population a bit like that at the moment and again, I think it's a crap idea; that being said, the push on the vaccines is still happening and people need to take them up. But, population immunity is the only way the illness drops down to nothing more dangerous than a common cold in the long run.

That was my point.

A lot of the 'success stories' people liked to point to aren't actually success stories at all. Japan is back in a state of semi-lockdown, Aus has most of its cities in lockdown and a below 10% vaccine uptake. International travel is still just a complete mess.

The way out of it isn't test and trace, it isn't quarantine or restrictions. It's immunity through vaccination, booster jabs and, ultimately on top of that, people having had the thing before as well. The latter is what needs to be limited and controlled and that's where I agree with you that our government are probably being extremely reckless and dangerous if indeed my feeling is right.
 
Also, COVID update for me. Woke up a few times in the night with a really sore throat but just smashed loads of water and the painkillers.

The aches I had yesterday have gone, as has the fever. I am sneezing a lot and my throat is very sore, I'm due some ibuprofen now so that makes sense though.

Resting up but I feel a hell of a lot better. It really is like an awful cold but other than that just hoping this is how it stays, and perhaps shows how effective having just one dose can be - plus, I'm healthy, get plenty of fresh air and sunlight and generally take care of myself. I know that it doesn't mean you're superhuman or immune, and athletes who are much fitter than me have ended up really bad from this, but I think as a rule of thumb, it helps.
 
MikelsGoat said:
The boy is refusing to isolate, he says he will lose his job if hes off for 10days, the missus will lose a huge amount of money, we struggled for a bit after our last isolation, my heads burnt rar off.

We have all just had a lateral flow, all negative.

My daughter has the other 1 in work, thats the 1 thats come back positive.
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My missus' Uncle was telling me that his daughter flew back for a funeral last week. And she obviously has to isolate now, however they rang up the NHS helpline and were basically told isolating is up to you! Its quite unreal that the information is so inconsistent
 
BlueToff said:
It's completely bonkers and completely unfair. In 3 weeks, if you're double jabbed you'd be able to not isolate anyway unless you were positive.

There's obviously the financial reasons - like you've mentioned - but then everything else that goes with it as well, and all the added stress.

If you sacked it off I don't think anyone could get on their high horse. And, if I'm right, then test and trace would actually advise your daughter not to get a PCR if she's had it recently, because PCRs can sometimes pick up positives from cases that are up to three months old (that's what they told my housemate).

I've got it, so far pretty on and off mild but it's basically got me like a bad cold so hopefully nothing more than that - could be that my first dose is doing a job as it's been just over three weeks since I had it. My mum and dad have both been double jabbed and are testing every day as negative, though, and aren't isolating.

They are being sensible. Doing all shopping online. My dad works from home and really only gets out to go on his bike so he's not gonna be too much of a danger to anyone anyway, but my mum works self-employed as a nanny for two doctors. She's told them that I'm positive but they've told her to still come to work as long as she's testing negative - their reasoning being they're both in a bloody hospital all day anyway. She also has to help look after my nan but fortunately my aunt is able to pick up the slack for the next week or so.

I've already lost £200 just from having to miss a day at work today and next Tuesday now. Would have paid my rent for the house I'm not bloody able to live in at the moment :D
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Do you live with your parents?
 
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