Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

Because the world is a doomy and gloomy place?

I'm just erring on the pessimistic side because if things come crashing back down again i'm not sure i'm mentally strong enough to deal with that

I don't trust the government to get anything right - so ergo this opening up is going to fail

The 'vast majority' of people probably have been sticking to the rules - just like the 'vast majority' of people that think that the rules that were still in place yesterday were fine to carry on with - rather than pissing 18 months worth of caution up the wall

I know mate it is, sorry that was a snappy thing to say. But I just think shouts of being back in lockdown by autumn are a bit daft and just media-driven panic tbh

The link between cases and deaths has really been pushed to its breaking point (in a good way). Hospitalisations are high but still, deaths staying low, vaccines are working - ultimately it's a lot of people who haven't been vaccinated, for one reason or another, who are ending up really struggling. We need to get this vaccine roll out finished and boosters out.

We have to open up at some point and right now is better than the alternative which is, well, never - or it might as well be.

Most people's lives aren't changing that much. There's clubs etc allowed to open and gigs and matches and events back on and those industries desperately needed that. You might not enjoy any of those or some of those but people's livelihoods depend on them and for 18 months they have been told they do not matter. It's not on.

We've got summer weather and school holidays on our side. We've got mass testing. The track and trace needs to change or half of the country will be isolating.

If people want to keep wearing masks they will do. They aren't going to be mandatory forever and they'll be gone before covid is. COVID's here to stay. 'Learning to live with it' isn't keeping huge industries in limbo.

 

[BlueToff]

Cheers.

So, I have a wedding to go at the end of Aug which i'm really looking forward to so I have to semi isolate 10 days before for fear of getting pinged.

madness

Yeah stupid, unless you can get in the made up trial which is actually a really good idea, if the Tories hadn't just fabricated it to try and get Johnson and Sunak out of isolation.

Honestly mate, just delete the app and be sensible and test yourself before the wedding?

Just get a PCR - say you've got symptoms maybe? - 11 days before for peace of mind? If you randomly test positive at least you'd still get out in time for the wedding? And in all likelihood you wouldn't be positive, but then just be cautious for the 10 days before and maybe lateral flow yourself 3-4 times in that period?

Tbh, you're more likely to get it at the wedding than anywhere else!

 

[coollino]

Yeah stupid, unless you can get in the made up trial which is actually a really good idea, if the Tories hadn't just fabricated it to try and get Johnson and Sunak out of isolation.

Honestly mate, just delete the app and be sensible and test yourself before the wedding?

Just get a PCR - say you've got symptoms maybe? - 11 days before for peace of mind? If you randomly test positive at least you'd still get out in time for the wedding? And in all likelihood you wouldn't be positive, but then just be cautious for the 10 days before and maybe lateral flow yourself 3-4 times in that period?

Tbh, you're more likely to get it at the wedding than anywhere else!

Yeah, I'm def going to test myself before the wedding and I assume everyone will (especially with the bride being pregnant).

Might just not do much before. Getting my second vacc on 4 Aug so will see how it goes.

And then you will have them having to deal with the financial side if 20% of their guests can't turn up.

 

[JamesEFC]

Cheers.

So, I have a wedding to go at the end of Aug which i'm really looking forward to so I have to semi isolate 10 days before for fear of getting pinged.

madness

Me and my mrs to be are getting married a week Saturday and currently 26 of the 80 guest list are in isolation having either been pinged or tested positive

 

[grandjoeblue]

Cheers.

So, I have a wedding to go at the end of Aug which i'm really looking forward to so I have to semi isolate 10 days before for fear of getting pinged.

madness

I haven't got the app any more for similar reasons. Double vaccinated and I test a few times a week for work. The app needs an overhaul.

 

[BlueToff]

Yeah, I'm def going to test myself before the wedding and I assume everyone will (especially with the bride being pregnant).

Might just not do much before. Getting my second vacc on 4 Aug so will see how it goes.

And then you will have them having to deal with the financial side if 20% of their guests can't turn up.

Yeah it must be such an added stress. Mentioned yesterday but my brother-in-law and sister are currently isolating, both with covid, looking after their two-week old baby., They're stressed out of their mind, it's horrible, and they must have caught it in the hospital and the only reason they probably did is because they were both so run down from her being in labour for a day.

It's different stresses for different people and then on top of that you'll now have people screaming at others because they decide they can't be arsed wearing a mask to the pub.

Think the best solution is to play by your own rules as long as your sensible with it. Because the government's rules don't make any sense, and that seems to be the same across the bloody board in most countries atm.

 

[Prevenger17]

Just get vaccinated ffs……

This. I don't understand people who refuse to get one. Luckily there has been a huge uptake in Ireland but god knows what they do now in somewhere like the US where vaccine scepticism is so high

 

[coollino]

Me and my mrs to be are getting married a week Saturday and currently 26 of the 80 guest list are in isolation having either been pinged or tested positive

Good luck. Hope you are not getting too stressed. Is the venue flexible with refunds etc?

 

[BlueToff]

I haven't got the app any more for similar reasons. Double vaccinated and I test a few times a week for work. The app needs an overhaul.

Ultimately mate the app works exactly as it should do.

It works too well, that's the issue.

It's the entire idea of contact isolation that needs scrapping, and replacing with what @tsubaki generally wants which is that testing idea. However, I don't think that should really involve any isolation, but it depends what's workable.

IF there is really a pilot scheme for contact testing, then it's a good thing. But I fear the Tories genuinely made it up on the spot yesterday.

 

[BlueToff]

This. I don't understand people who refuse to get one. Luckily there has been a huge uptake in Ireland but god knows what they do nownin the US where vaccine scepticism is so high

My sister's best mate works for the NHS (as a psychiatrist). She also goes out with my best mate.

All along she's been mad anti-vax. Properly don't get it me. Neither does my sister (who tbf hasn't had hers yet but she was pregnant and now has covid so her appointment which was this week has had to be pushed back) and neither does her boyfriend, who got his as soon as possible (and he's extremely healthy, proper fitness freak and all that).

She's just refusing. It's so mad.

 

[bcblue1878]

Freedom Day - ha ha! My lad aged 28 and generally fit as a flea, had Covid very early last year, suffered with his lungs and breathing until about 4 months ago! Has had his two jabs this year, second one about two months ago!
Started last Thursday to feel a bit stuffed up, cough etc - so did two lateral flow tests, both positive! Then went for a PCR and got the result back Saturday - positive, so he’s got it again!
Now in isolation again for 10 days, and for the first time has lost his senses of smell and taste. He’s stuck to the rules, masks, distancing etc, and then boom!
This things not going away lads and lasses - as they say in all the best American Cop shows - “Be careful out there”!

 

[navidson]

Forgive me for my stupidity - and i'm pretty sure i'm missing the point with this isolation stuff but:

I understand how this track and trace system worked in the early days - but now we have a number of quick and easy ways to establish whether or not a person actually has covid

Why would you need to isolate just off a 'ping' when you can self test and find out if you have it or not?!

 

[Prevenger17]

I know mate it is, sorry that was a snappy thing to say. But I just think shouts of being back in lockdown by autumn are a bit daft and just media-driven panic tbh

But it's defo possible. How often throughout this pandemic have countries assumed they were back on the straight and narrow only to lock down again as cases soared? Personally, I think it's dafter to drop every single restriction and for the message to be "everything is fine again", as people won't feel the need to exercise discretion or caution going forward. I hope it works out for the UK, but from everything I have seen the last couple of years, it is an enormous gamble

 

[JamesEFC]

Good luck. Hope you are not getting too stressed. Is the venue flexible with refunds etc?

Thanks mate, not really stressed just at the stage now we just want it done as it’s been rearranged three times. Obviously compared to how some people have been affected by all this we can’t complain as we’ve been lucky with the important things such as family health and jobs etc.

the venue have been spot on and don’t want final numbers until the Thursday before so couldn’t ask for more really.

 

[tsubaki]

Forgive me for my stupidity - and i'm pretty sure i'm missing the point with this isolation stuff but:

I understand how this track and trace system worked in the early days - but now we have a number of quick and easy ways to establish whether or not a person actually has covid

Why would you need to isolate just off a 'ping' when you can self test and find out if you have it or not?!

Two reasons - firstly you need to ensure you have taken the tests and got the necessary results, and secondly the fact the person might have been exposed needs to get to people who can make use of the information.