grandjoeblue
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So what actually changes on the 19th? Will events require testing? I still cannot get my head around the mask guidance plan.
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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He says that isn't misleading... but it's misleading. Of course deaths will rise; but the point being made is they won't rise to the extent of previous waves - indeed nowhere near. Plotting an 'exponential' rise from 5 deaths to 10 or 20 to 30 is all but pointless.
Because they're a moron, to be blunt.
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I have lost the plot as well mate. I just feel a bit unnerved that a bloke that has proved to be a bit crap in other jobs is making these decisions after a few weeks into his latest one.
Cases, (yeah, I know) are rising across the country, locally to me, so far, hospitalisations and deaths are very low, so maybe thats the deal now.
Like someone posted earlier, good luck if you are at risk. So thats me still in our lock down till spring by my reckoning. Nice one.
Hospitalisations are more worrying
We've gone from less than 100 a day to 563 today - The highest figure since mid March
Again though, misleading. Those hospitalised include those who wouldn't have been hospitalised in earlier waves, they just have capacity to be very cautious now.
Those being hospitalised are coming out again now more or less constantly. The only people dying are the idiots who refused a vaccine, or the very elderly/sick who would have succumbed to pneumonia under the same circumstances.
So, with 5 million people on the waiting list - we've decided to unnecessarily send slightly ill covid patients to hospital as a precaution?
Not having that
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We absolutely have. People turning up in A&E are being admitted much more readily from younger age ranges; in the past waves, they would have been sent home unless they were on the verge of requiring intensive care.
The age range of people being admitted are much, much lower now.
There's a lot of fingers in ears going on in this thread of late.
So we're currently sacrificing genuinely ill people requiring urgent medical attention for young people with sniffles?
Can you show the evidence that significantly more slightly ill people are being admitted to hospital ?
The commentary in the media is that a lot of young people are being admitted to critical care. The NHS don't tend to admit patients to critical care wards on a whim.
My missus ( hospital nurse ) would back this up.
The younger admissions aren’t staying in for long. The ones who are, have either not been vaccinated or have underlying health conditions - obesity still being a big one.
Log graphs are the best way to show initial rises though and fhe statement I was disagreeing with was that deaths haven’t risen - they clearly have and are a very lagging indicator in any case especially given the younger groups now being affected. The deaths recorded now probably reflect cases from almost a month ago, before the significant rise.
I agree that deaths thankfully won’t get to the peaks of previous waves due to the vaccines.
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