Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

Mr Zahawi said: "We're moving from 'you must' to 'you are expected' to wear a mask in indoor spaces."

Anybody knows the difference like?

Covid-19: Masks still expected to be worn indoors after 19 July - Zahawi

England is moving from "you must" wear a mask to "you are expected to", the vaccines minister says.

www.bbc.com

must - blame the government
you are expected- government blames you

 

[grandjoeblue]

Mr Zahawi said: "We're moving from 'you must' to 'you are expected' to wear a mask in indoor spaces."

Anybody knows the difference like?

Covid-19: Masks still expected to be worn indoors after 19 July - Zahawi

England is moving from "you must" wear a mask to "you are expected to", the vaccines minister says.

www.bbc.com

Pretty ridiculous really. Whats the point?

Either provide proper rules backed by legislation (like now) or allow no masks, guidance is just pointless. Something inbetween is just likely to cause arguments and possibly even violence in public places.

 

[COYBL25]

Pretty ridiculous really. Whats the point?

Either provide proper rules backed by legislation (like now) or allow no masks, guidance is just pointless. Something inbetween is just likely to cause arguments and possibly even violence in public places.

100% nailed on that someone will be filled in over a comment over either not wearing a mask / wearing a mask.

Also the media will be all over it like a tramp on a bag of chips.

 

[spectateur]

Pretty ridiculous really. Whats the point?

Either provide proper rules backed by legislation (like now) or allow no masks, guidance is just pointless. Something inbetween is just likely to cause arguments and possibly even violence in public places.

This always has been a problem with the UK leaderships.
Guidelines instead of rules, recommendations instead of instructions. Everybody interprets these things differently, hence the chaos in the country.

 

[grandjoeblue]

This always has been a problem with the UK leaderships.
Guidelines instead of rules, recommendations instead of instructions. Everybody interprets these things differently, hence the chaos in the country.

This year the rules/legislation have been in place but aren't particularly effective for a number of reasons including the poor test and trace app and the government allowing loads of flights from India.

Personally I don't see how you can remove all legislation for social distancing and the masks but then provide guidance. Its definitely going to kick off regularly. In the shops by mine you see a decent number of people without masks already so I don't know whether locally you would have arguments but it doesn't seem particularly well planned.

 

[tsubaki]

This year the rules/legislation have been in place but aren't particularly effective for a number of reasons including the poor test and trace app and the government allowing loads of flights from India.

Personally I don't see how you can remove all legislation for social distancing and the masks but then provide guidance. Its definitely going to kick off regularly. In the shops by mine you see a decent number of people without masks already so I don't know whether locally you would have arguments but it doesn't seem particularly well planned.

“it doesn’t seem particularly well planned” is of course the common thread running through everything this government does

 

[grandjoeblue]

“it doesn’t seem particularly well planned” is of course the common thread running through everything this government does

This reminds me of when they sent the students back to the cramped halls in September and then blamed them for covid spreading.

An absolute idiot could see that these policies are daft.

 

[tsubaki]

This reminds me of when they sent the students back to the cramped halls in September and then blamed them for covid spreading.

An absolute idiot could see that these policies are daft.

Everything has been. Harding said last Autumn that no one predicted an increase in numbers affected by illness over the winter and most of what’s followed since has showed she was telling the truth; no one at the top really did know that happens (however ridiculous that is).

 

[BlueToff]

Mr Zahawi said: "We're moving from 'you must' to 'you are expected' to wear a mask in indoor spaces."

Anybody knows the difference like?

Covid-19: Masks still expected to be worn indoors after 19 July - Zahawi

England is moving from "you must" wear a mask to "you are expected to", the vaccines minister says.

www.bbc.com

Well suppose it's putting the onus on people to actually do it themselves, which will be the way it's going to be in the long term.

Personally think it's easier to just keep it mandatory for the time being and then maybe next year make it unmandatory.

 

[BlueToff]

This always has been a problem with the UK leaderships.
Guidelines instead of rules, recommendations instead of instructions. Everybody interprets these things differently, hence the chaos in the country.

Well then again, I don't like dictatorships and personal choice shouldn't just be wilfully thrown away.

I'm very much glad the UK government didn't do what the Spanish and Italians did and lock people in their homes and fine them for leaving the house - given Italy has had 1,000 fewer covid deaths (or less actually) than the UK, it doesn't appear to have worked either.

Absolutely insane how supposedly liberal people have been so wilfully happen to have freedom of choice taken away.

The only positive to keeping the masks mandatory for now is that it gets rid of the grey area. But down the line they shouldn't be mandatory.

 

[BlueToff]

This year the rules/legislation have been in place but aren't particularly effective for a number of reasons including the poor test and trace app and the government allowing loads of flights from India.

Personally I don't see how you can remove all legislation for social distancing and the masks but then provide guidance. Its definitely going to kick off regularly. In the shops by mine you see a decent number of people without masks already so I don't know whether locally you would have arguments but it doesn't seem particularly well planned.

Private businesses can do what they please.

I'd be very surprised if say, ASDA, didn't keep masks as mandatory in their stores.

That was made pretty clear in the announcement last week.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Well suppose it's putting the onus on people to actually do it themselves, which will be the way it's going to be in the long term.

Personally think it's easier to just keep it mandatory for the time being and then maybe next year make it unmandatory.

Well, personally, that's dangerous. May trigger inter-communal arguments. The other day, a dad with his kid outside told me to mask up, in the park, I said I don't feel like it, (there was like 10 meters between me and them) then he goes on how I may infect his daughter whick will mean his family members being sick etc.

 

[COYBL25]

Private businesses can do what they please.

I'd be very surprised if say, ASDA, didn't keep masks as mandatory in their stores.

That was made pretty clear in the announcement last week.

LOL.

You very obviously haven`t been to any of the Asda`s in Liverpool lol

 

[BlueToff]

Well, personally, that's dangerous. May trigger inter-communal arguments. The other day, a dad with his kid outside told me to mask up, in the park, I said I don't feel like it, (there was like 10 meters between me and them) then he goes on how I may infect his daughter whick will mean his family members being sick etc.

I agree to an extent but in this case that bloke was clearly a tit

 

[BlueStevie35]

No hospital figures reported today, last Sunday’s late revealed total was 6

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 26 deaths were announced today, down 8 on yesterday and up 11 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average rises to an even 29

For the 60 day cut off, 30 deaths were announced today, down 14 on yesterday and up 13 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 35.29