Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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COYBL25 said:
My best mate`s partner is a GP, my neighbour across the road is a GP in the same practice and my brother in law is a GP in another part of the country.

One hardly sees any patients and won`t let anyone into her room and does most stuff via zoom or on the phone.
Another is operating as completely normal GP and the other is operating as a hybrid of the two.

My elderly parents GP practice actually has a chain across the entrance and you have to buzz, to be physically allowed in, after you`ve passed the receptionists grilling.

My own GP practice, is operating more or less, as it was before all this kicked off.

Just from that little snapshot, it would appear that each GP practice is operating under it`s own set of rules, which in turn is causing people to bypass / give up on their GP and go straight to A&E - causing the massive rise in A&E attendance that has been reported on.

It seems that GP`s are kings of their very own castle and until this is sorted out, problems like you`ve mentioned above will just carry on. ( I`m not knocking GP`s by the way )
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Thankfully I've not needed to have a GP appointment as my doctors are useless at the best of times.

My missus had a potential cancer issue last year but that was dealt in a speedy manner and referred to a specialist straight away.

Thankfully not cancer.
 
Moomin said:
SAGE will look at all the various modelling , they will amass as much data as possible.

Do you think your issue of SAGE might be down to how some of the media report on them??

I'm yet to see anything confirmed by you that Imperial College and Sage have predicted hundreds of deaths per day by now.
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I don't have a massive issue with SAGE I just stated they've modelled incorrectly at times during the pandemic which is true. Various SAGE members have been on tv at various points of the roadmap stating that each stage of reopening would cause significant problems. I don't really have the time to sit there and collate various examples but anyone who keeps an eye on the news will have seen similar.
 
navidson said:
Not only this - but they are paid a kings ransom to currently do a tiny proportion of the work nurses are doing

My own GP practice has a similar set-up to the one you mentioned - a holding pen at the entrance of the building, greeted by a member of staff, nobody in the waiting rooms etc. They do not have any sort of online presence in terms of being able to book appointments, you have to ring up at 8.30 in the morning and hope you managed to snag an appointment - An appointment which generally means a phone call to your GP

They're currently about as useful as buttons on a sock
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So everyone just heads straight to A&E !
 
grandjoeblue said:
I don't have a massive issue with SAGE I just stated they've modelled incorrectly at times during the pandemic which is true. Various SAGE members have been on tv at various points of the roadmap stating that each stage of reopening would cause significant problems. I don't really have the time to sit there and collate various examples but anyone who keeps an eye on the news will have seen similar.
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You said Sage and Imperial college had predicted hundreds of deaths by now, but I've yet to see your evidence of how you came to that conclusion.

I watch the news as well and yes, the Scientists and doctors they have had on do have some concerns.
 
navidson said:
Not only this - but they are paid a kings ransom to currently do a tiny proportion of the work nurses are doing

My own GP practice has a similar set-up to the one you mentioned - a holding pen at the entrance of the building, greeted by a member of staff, nobody in the waiting rooms etc. They do not have any sort of online presence in terms of being able to book appointments, you have to ring up at 8.30 in the morning and hope you managed to snag an appointment - An appointment which generally means a phone call to your GP

They're currently about as useful as buttons on a sock
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Both my mates missus and my neighbour across the road, have told me independently of each other, that they`ve had healthy patients asking for sick notes, due them being too scared to go back to work / furlough ending, because of anxiety caused by the fear of catching the virus.

Neither gave them sick notes and advised them to speak to their HR departments.

I should imagine this is going to be quite a widespread problem ( amongst all the lead swingers )
 
Government must be confident that the NHS will cope with hospital cases if they are going all in.

Personally think its now or never anyway - only other solution would have been lock back down whilst we tweak a vaccine for the over 40's aimed directly at the Indian variant but time thats done it'll have mutated to something else and on and on we go.
 
BlueToff said:
It doesn’t though Legs?

Hopsitalisations are still very low. Deaths even lower. They are still increasing (hospitalisations) but even in the last week the pace of the increasing has slowed down. We’re unlocking in the middle of the summer so that the strain on the NHS isn’t too much. By mid-September, at this rate, every adult in the country will have been offered both doses. Boosters on the way. School’s shutting for 6-7 weeks too. Plus the hospital stays through covid aren’t as serious - not many people are ending up on ICU wards or ventilators, most people are younger and fitter going in with this - the capacity is there to treat them as a precaution whereas at the height of the pandemic it wasn’t.

It has to be tried because if not we might as well just give up. Unfortunately that trade off, like the trade off we have of not locking down every winter or having some stupid test and trace for flu, ultimately will mean people get ill. But that’s life. It’s the trade off people accept to be able to live life and not quarantine and give up basic freedoms like leaving the house
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Personally I don’t think hospitalizations at 400 a day with over 2000 occupied beds is low, especially as it does seem to be impacting current care, at least in some regions.

Also when I last looked it seemed about 4% of cases end up as hospital cases currently, although thankfully much lower than prior to vaccines and as you say the stays are typically shorter/less serious, todays UK case rate of over 30k will presumably mean over 1000 a day is baked in for about a weeks time. If cases do get to 100,000 a day I can’t see how that wouldn’t have massive impacts on general healthcare access.

What figures on daily admissions and occupied beds would you make you think that the current plan for July 19th should not go ahead?
 
RAFUH said:
That would be an easy fix if true. Just include aspiration during the injection.
Although some of the newer safety syringes won't allow for for that step.
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It sounds a promising line of research and hope it pans out but confess am a bit confused as to how accidental intravenous injection could explain the vulnerability of certain age groups to the blood clots.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
I wonder if the booster shots will be based on the Indian variant or still on the original strain the current vaccines are made towards?
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Early boosters if needed will probably still be the original, but both Pfizer and Moderna have been working on vaccines for the variants. Moderna has one for the beta variant that started trials in February I think. I would guess most effort is now on the delta variant.

I know some people that were part of the original trials. They are getting close to 1 year since their initial vaccine and are a bit antsy about the delta variant.
 
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