Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Deleted member 48881]

Let's ban summer eh..

Joe Biden blames climate crisis for deadly heatwave in western US and Canada

Record-shattering temperatures linked to dozens of deaths, buckled roads, blackouts and wildfires

www.theguardian.com

 

[Tubey]

This PMQs is astonishing. Johnson is a disgrace.

 

[Tipp blue]

Let's ban summer eh..

Joe Biden blames climate crisis for deadly heatwave in western US and Canada

Record-shattering temperatures linked to dozens of deaths, buckled roads, blackouts and wildfires

www.theguardian.com

My brother lives in vancouver he said its unreal 78% humidity along with it.. his boss cancelled work due to the heat until next week after the Bank Holiday Monday.

 

[Tipp blue]

AZ interval cut over from 12 weeks to 8 weeks last week, has now been cut to four weeks between doses over here now.

Looks like we’re trying to baton down the hatches on the inevitable seeding of Delta.

What did you make of NPHETS modeling? 700K cases over the next 3 months as a worst case. I'd love to see the figures and information they put into a computer to get it to spit that out.. that's 6700 cases a day for 3 months.

 

[Gwlacticos]

Had my second AZ jab half nine this morning. Was meant to be next week, but had a text from NHS asking to bring it forward. I walked in to a busy hall and was told I was the only one getting AZ, everyone else waiting on Pfizer. So straight to the front, bosh, and out. I was dead cocky after my first one, saying I didn’t feel anything and felt fine, until twelve hours after the jab. That night I felt utterly horrendous, worst I’ve felt in years. Biking to work the next morning, in the rain, feeling ill, I was cursing the whole thing. Closest I’ve come to a day off sick in around ten years. Lasted about twenty four hours, then I was fine. I’m not looking forward to tonight, but had to be done and glad to just get it out the way.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

8 weeks isn’t the optimal for Pfizer; it was tested and approved on 3-4 weeks between doses.

Bless them, they do try not present as not hanging off the mantra of their populist government, just slips every time no matter the effort.

 

[Neiler]

What did you make of NPHETS modeling? 700K cases over the next 3 months as a worst case. I'd love to see the figures and information they put into a computer to get it to spit that out.. that's 6700 cases a day for 3 months.

I think people are unnecessarily hard on NEPHET at the moment to be honest, its pretty much their job to work out a range of risks, the figures you mention are the headline ones, but they are one of four escalating options, i think we will sit in option 1 or two myself. When it comes to risk analysis around these things and managing projects like this from a health care point of view, option 4 is always if we did nothing, to illustrate the worst case scenario. So that particular line of modeling isn't relevant - because we will be cautious. Model 1/2/3 are quite reasonable and i would suggest most likely. A lot of politics is being played and NEPHET are the fall guys, just for doing their job.

To be honest delaying opening up to the next phase is the right call. Realistically, we are bunched, we are nailed on for a fourth wave in the next moth, its coming without question, its to rampant in our nearest neighbors not to become dominant in Ireland and our quarantine with the UK isnt nearly as good. Our vaccine programae is about three weeks behind the UK at this stage and will only increase from here. Still i think we were distracted by the political gain of one shots in to many arms and have left double dosing a tad short, though we are seriously getting there now. We need to decide on our strategy now, do we do what the Uk did let it run rampant and just close our eyes and blind faith with vaccine's, or do we continue to hold the line on our measures, id hold the line personally and up quarantine with the UK, every day counts here to enable the vaccine programme.

If we can get all 30 years olds double dosed in the next few weeks we should be ok, but remain cautious. I see a bigger dangerous wave in the autumn/winter to be honest, we're already preparing for it.

 

[BlueToff]

8 weeks isn’t the optimal for Pfizer; it was tested and approved on 3-4 weeks between doses.

Yes, and now the real-world evidence the actual evidence is 12 weeks provides more protection. That was from a few weeks ago, will see if I can find whether it's now been fully peer-reviewed.

12-Week Gap Between Pfizer Vaccine Doses Generates Higher Antibody Response, Study Finds

British public health officials say that this study vindicates their approach of prioritizing the rollout of the first dose while delaying the second shot.

www.forbes.com

But when I had my jab the other day, they told me to book back in anytime between 8 and 12 weeks.

As I said, real world evidence, not from the lab.

 

[BlueToff]

Bless them, they do try not present as not hanging off the mantra of their populist government, just slips every time no matter the effort.

I'm booked in on September 10th for my next jab - which the evidence suggests is the optimal spacing even though yes, spacing out the Pfizer without lab evidence was a concern and a gamble, but it's paid off - but when I hit 8 weeks I'll go and get my second dose at a walk-in if I can.

12-Week Gap Between Pfizer Vaccine Doses Generates Higher Antibody Response, Study Finds

British public health officials say that this study vindicates their approach of prioritizing the rollout of the first dose while delaying the second shot.

www.forbes.com

Evidence. Nothing to do with politics.

 

[BlueToff]

Glad to see Public Health Scotland have found a reason to blame football fans.

 

[BlueToff]

@tsubaki I see our oaf of a leader has now referred to it as 'Freedom Day', btw. First time i've seen a gov member say it (albeit, that may just be because the daily briefings stopped).

 

[tsubaki]

Yes, and now the real-world evidence the actual evidence is 12 weeks provides more protection. That was from a few weeks ago, will see if I can find whether it's now been fully peer-reviewed.

12-Week Gap Between Pfizer Vaccine Doses Generates Higher Antibody Response, Study Finds

British public health officials say that this study vindicates their approach of prioritizing the rollout of the first dose while delaying the second shot.

www.forbes.com

But when I had my jab the other day, they told me to book back in anytime between 8 and 12 weeks.

As I said, real world evidence, not from the lab.

that study has yet to be peer reviewed btw (it’s just an initial paper)

 

[dannyboy]

Cases up by 6,000 in a single day but deaths remaining low. We could easily be hitting the peaks of December/January again very soon only this time no lockdown. I wonder if there's a figure with regards to the cases the government wouldn't feel comfortable with.

 

[BlueToff]

that study has yet to be peer reviewed btw (it’s just an initial paper)

I know, will see what the peer-review says but the initial evidence is good.

Anyway, the gap is being shortened if it can be - so clearly there's a middle ground.

 

[BlueToff]

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Cases up by 6,000 in a single day but deaths remaining low. We could easily be hitting the peaks of December/January again very soon only this time no lockdown. I wonder if there's a figure with regards to the cases the government wouldn't feel comfortable with.

Based on what happened in the last waves, it'd be 2-3 weeks before we saw a rise in hospitalisations and deaths.

But, we haven't seen that since the initial case rate started spiking in early June, so the signs so far are good.