Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I didn't just mean with schools but what's the way forward?

We don't test for any other illness? And we don't have vaccines for every illness on the planet.

I'm talking long term - do you think that early next year we should really be forcing people to isolate for a virus that everybody is vaccinated against? Should we really be doing as many tests? Why should they, in theory, be needed?

There is no other way out of it - for schools or anything else.

I suggest you take a minute and read what you've wrote.

Especially the bit about testing for illness.
 
I suggest you take a minute and read what you've wrote.

Especially the bit about testing for illness.

I've edited my post.

Of course we test for illnesses, but we didn't - before COVID - go round and test yourself if you have flu, or a bad cold.

I don't see what's so outrageously wrong with my suggestion that once the vaccination roll out is complete, we shouldn't be testing for an illness that (nearly) everyone is vaccinated against, if (IF) the aim is to stop the disruption.

What other solution is there to stop the disruption that @dannyboy fairly points out, in the long term?
 
People aren’t scared anymore. Heart warming to see, the poison media and lockdown tyrants appear to have lost the battle.

Well they're trying. Public Health Scotland managing to pin it on footy fans yesterday, even though everyone who went to Wembley had to have a negative test or proof of vaccination.

Of course, travelling to and from the game will have been a risk, but that's the risk isn't it, and the point of the vaccines is to ensure that isn't going to result in people dying.

Same with Wimbledon. All got to be negative test every day to get in - my mate is there covering it and is having to test himself every morning and every night.
 
I've edited my post.

Of course we test for illnesses, but we didn't - before COVID - go round and test yourself if you have flu, or a bad cold.

I don't see what's so outrageously wrong with my suggestion that once the vaccination roll out is complete, we shouldn't be testing for an illness that (nearly) everyone is vaccinated against, if (IF) the aim is to stop the disruption.

What other solution is there to stop the disruption that @dannyboy fairly points out, in the long term?

Ok, let me get this straight. Before Covid, we never tested people for any illness?

Have you ever had bloods taken? If so, what was the purpose??

To simply stop testing would be madness. It's a new illness, we still don't know the long term effects of Covid.

If we stop the testing, we also wouldn't learn and be prepared for potential variations which might be able to bypass the vaccinations.

No testing, no data to prepare for updates and changes to the vaccine.

It's a ballache the disruptions, I'm currently self isolating for the second time in the past six months.

A new system needs to be in place for schools for when they return. Need to look at ventilation systems for the classrooms.

Secondary children could be vaccinated in the summer with at least one dose.
 
People aren’t scared anymore. Heart warming to see, the poison media and lockdown tyrants appear to have lost the battle.

I'm curious, who are the lockdown tyrants??

Pretty sure the media have not been calling for lockdowns to stay, rather the opposite and giving names such as Freedom day for the end of the lockdown restrictions.
 
I'm curious, who are the lockdown tyrants??

Pretty sure the media have not been calling for lockdowns to stay, rather the opposite and giving names such as Freedom day for the end of the lockdown restrictions.

I mean, this is absolutely not true whatsoever. “Freedom day” came from social media. The BBC are still trying to scare people into locking themselves in the house by showing us graphs of cases spiking (even though deaths and hospitalisations are still on the floor which they don’t mention). In no way shape or form can you suggest they aren’t pro-lockdown.
 
Ok, let me get this straight. Before Covid, we never tested people for any illness?

Have you ever had bloods taken? If so, what was the purpose??

To simply stop testing would be madness. It's a new illness, we still don't know the long term effects of Covid.

If we stop the testing, we also wouldn't learn and be prepared for potential variations which might be able to bypass the vaccinations.

No testing, no data to prepare for updates and changes to the vaccine.

It's a ballache the disruptions, I'm currently self isolating for the second time in the past six months.

A new system needs to be in place for schools for when they return. Need to look at ventilation systems for the classrooms.

Secondary children could be vaccinated in the summer with at least one dose.

We didn't test for stuff which would result in isolation/quarantine (barring very specific exceptions), on a national scale where people have to test for stuff like going into work and school. Now, I'd expect testing for people going into hospital to have to continue, but that's common sense.

What is the end goal of the vaccinations if not to stop testing and get back to normality?

I'm not talking about stopping testing next week, I'm talking about in the long term, 6-8 months down the road or even next spring as we come out of the winter.

You shouldn't have to be isolating or testing yourself – unless the situation really requires, i.e. you show specific symptoms or you need to go to a certain place/do a certain thing – when the population is vaccinated.
 
I mean, this is absolutely not true whatsoever. “Freedom day” came from social media. The BBC are still trying to scare people into locking themselves in the house by showing us graphs of cases spiking (even though deaths and hospitalisations are still on the floor which they don’t mention). In no way shape or form can you suggest they aren’t pro-lockdown.

How horrid of the BBC for showing graphs with data I'm guessing that comes from central government and the ONS.

The BBC i would class as neutral and report the data.

Certain newspapers have definately got an agenda and have been pushing the " Freedom day " as some nationalistic triumph as they did with Brexit.

We've had journalists like Toby Young, Isobel Oakenshot moaning about lockdowns and questioning the experts when it came to lockdowns and called them tyrants and fear mongering when they said a second wave will come in the Autumn.

Young even claimed in June that Covid has gone and disappeared into thin air. We would have no second wave in the winter. They are the real tyrants, the ones who question the experts and try to discredit them.
 
The answer really has to be to stop testing as much, so that's how the disruption stops.
Testing isn't the issue: it's the current reaction or procedures after said testing that's causing the current situation in schools.

As Moomin rightly points out, to reduce testing is to put your head in the sound and pretend that the problem isn't there, when in reality it still is there.
 
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