Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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UK Government: "Social distancing is still very important. You should stay 2 metres apart from anyone who is not in your household or support bubble where possible, or 1 metre with extra precautions in place (such as wearing face coverings) if you cannot stay 2 metres apart. You must wear a face covering in many indoor settings, such as shops and places of worship, and on public transport, unless you are exempt or have a reasonable excuse"

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Sorry, where does this fit in?

Every single one of those people tested negative before entering that building David.
 
Stop talking tripe.

Last summer it was *over* too.
Almost 50 million people vaccined, either by first or by having both vaccines. All 3 rolling death averages have fallen significantly. We are on the fast track to finally seeing light at the end of a very dark tunnel, albeit a good 6-8 months later than hoped
 
That's a reason for risking another deadly surge?

The fact of the matter is that most places can do outdoor business. If they cant then they haven't adapted to survive...I'm reliably informed that's the nature of business: they evolve and adapt to the changing conditions...or they go to the wall.

Having sat outside of our pub this evening in the freezing cold, I can agree that certain pubs can cope and adapt. However, we have loads of space, most city pubs don’t and they cannot ‘evolve and adapt’ because they physically cannot do so. The data says that being inside of pubs didn’t raise issues, now most people are inoculated it definitely shouldn’t. We look forward to welcoming our now inoculated customers back to the pub on the 17th, where some will be indoors following Covid guidelines, and others will be outside enjoying the no doubt improving weather. Schools are full, people are back at work, shops are open and still the numbers fall as inoculations rise. We’ve beaten this virus, it’s cost many lives, but it is nearly over. It’s time for people to get their lives back......
 
It's going to end in tears. My argument on here for the past week: outdoor dining and drinking is fine - take it indoors and it's asking for trouble.

Hospitality will be the seedbed for the next wave, if or when it comes.
Perhaps but then I worried that was going to be the case as Florida and Texas opened indoor dining up and, at least so far, although there has been a rise in cases it is still pretty moderate and hasn’t been reflected in fatalities. Vaccination rate among different age groups, variants and the transistion from spring to summer are all going to play a part presumably.

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The southern border states are similar to the mountain states in that they have a single state that went through a surge this spring but seems to be on the far side of that without seeing a substantial increase in their death rate (so far, it may yet be early to tell).
 
Every single one of those people tested negative before entering that building David.
Mickey Mouse lateral flow tests.

Look, the whole reason for this was an experiment - to follow these poeple now and see how much impact they have in their communities in terms of the spread of infection.

Liverpool's leaders signed up for that and were willing to place its citizens in the way of this...and more of these to come.

Utter scabs.
 
Mickey Mouse lateral flow tests.

Look, the whole reason for this was an experiment - to follow these poeple now and see how much impact they have in their communities in terms of the spread of infection.

Liverpool's leaders signed up for that and were willing to place its citizens in the way of this...and more of these to come.

Utter scabs.

Funny how they weren’t “Mickey Mouse lateral flow tests” when the figures were right up in January.
 
Perhaps but then I worried that was going to be the case as Florida and Texas opened indoor dining up and, at least so far, although there has been a rise in cases it is still pretty moderate and hasn’t been reflected in fatalities. Vaccination rate among different age groups, variants and the transistion from spring to summer are all going to play a part presumably.

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The southern border states are similar to the mountain states in that they have a single state that went through a surge this spring but seems to be on the far side of that without seeing a substantial increase in their death rate (so far, it may yet be early to tell).
That could be down to Americans taking more seriously public health advice in the Biden era as much as any vaccine effect.

IMO we can only stress test these vaccines and understand if they are the difference when we go into a season when respiratory illness is rampant. If we see marked reduction of Covid19 death rates in the autumn and winter compared with last autumn / winter then we can claim the vaccines are the difference.
 
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