Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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That’s a lovely anti U.K. government piece, except for the fact that the U.K. government has no say in this. The vaccines are owned by Oxford and AZ, and they are getting it around the world as quickly as possible in spite of all the efforts of your mates in the EU to undermine it....
 
Hospital figures - 3 deaths were announced today, down 13 on yesterday and down 9 on last Monday. 1 death was in an English hospital, down 8 on yesterday and down 10 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 24.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 4 deaths were announced today, down 6 on yesterday and down 9 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 24.86

For the 60 day cut off, 4 deaths were announced today, down 16 on yesterday and down 6 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 63.57
 
The U.K. has exported the capability and formula to manufacture cheaply vaccines around the world. They have contributed large sums of money. What exactly have you or France done....how the hell do you think India is making so many vaccines....

To answer your question on France given over production facilities for the Biontech Vaccine a trually wonderful piece of altruism from GSK/Sanofi, unparalleled really. It’s enabled an extra 150 mill doses in a week:



Sanofi (France) themselves have looked to have cracked their vaccine with some truly wonderful science, they are developing two vaccines one is based on insect incubation technology and the other is an RNA, phase 3 will rumble on and probably be the Autumn before it starts to be produced, but it will be developed with variants in mind, which will be great and really the new game in town.

Ireland as I’ve told you one of the Team leads in developing of the Oxford University vaccine is Irish, he’s one of the head professors of the University. Ireland is actually huge producer of Pharma in the EU - we’ve our finger in every vaccine out there, such is our corporate tax cow boyness there is literally an A- Z https://www.medicines.ie/companies/list/all/page-1/per-page-25. (Not to be confused with AZ.) lol

Of particular note, is all the licensed Covid Vaccines have facilities here - except Moderna.

Not sure you realise but the U.K. is one of the main opponents of freeing up vaccine rights.


While advocacy groups have targeted the UK Government for their lack commitment on sharing vaccines with the developing world.

 
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To answer your question on France given over production facilities for the Biontech Vaccine a trually wonderful piece of altruism from GSK/Sanofi, unparalleled really. It’s enabled an extra 150 mill doses in a week:



Sanofi (France) themselves have looked to have cracked their vaccine with some truly wonderful science, they are developing two vaccines one is based on insect incubation technology and the other is an RNA, phase 3 will rumble on and probably be the Autumn before it starts to be produced, but it will be developed with variants in mind, which will be great and really the new game in town.

Not sure you realise but the U.K. is one of the main opponents of freeing up vaccine rights.


While advocacy groups have targeted the UK Government for their lack commitment on sharing vaccines with the developing world.


Yet all this fantastic manufacturing doesn’t stop the EU trying to ban legally ordered products, made ith in Europe by a British company who had a manufacturing facility paid for by Britain and making a British developed vaccine...please carry on defending these people but I’m done with the EU and it’s component countries who are doing this...
 
Yet all this fantastic manufacturing doesn’t stop the EU trying to ban legally ordered products, made ith in Europe by a British company who had a manufacturing facility paid for by Britain and making a British developed vaccine...please carry on defending these people but I’m done with the EU and it’s component countries who are doing this...

So in one post the British vaccine is saving everyone worldwide, in the next it’s poor mouthing - a British vaccine, developed by Britain (but actually by loads of people from all over the world), in a facility paid for by Britain, is blocked vaccines because of Europe (Still waiting on those British vaccine export numbers). Wonderful duplicity.

Im sure no one has consulted the fishermen here either.

Perhaps some kind of break away is in order, perhaps we could call it the Brexit Super League.
 
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So in one post the British vaccine is saving everyone worldwide, in the next it’s poor mouthing - a British vaccine, developed by Britain (but actually by loads of people from all over the world), in a facility paid for Britain, is blocked vaccines because of Europe (Still waiting on those British vaccine export numbers). Wonderful duplicity.

Im sure no one has consulted the fishermen here either.

Perhaps some kind of break away is in order, perhaps we could call it the Brexit Super League.

Nothing to do with the fishing industry. Not sure how you dragged that one in. You spend your time defending a failing EU vaccine rollout, while trying to do down a successful U.K. one. That’s fine, I know where you are coming from. Anything and everything from the U.K. is evidently bad, yet what has your country done on its own to address this pandemic. I’m not talking about the EU or Germany, what have you done other than be carried on the back of various other countries.....basically nothing ....
 
How many more times are we going to have this bloody debate about vaccines.

They aren’t British, they aren’t European, they aren’t American. Every single vaccine is multinational - whether that’s in their research, development or supply chain.

Also, who gives a toss?
 
Nothing to do with the fishing industry. Not sure how you dragged that one in. You spend your time defending a failing EU vaccine rollout, while trying to do down a successful U.K. one. That’s fine, I know where you are coming from. Anything and everything from the U.K. is evidently bad, yet what has your country done on its own to address this pandemic. I’m not talking about the EU or Germany, what have you done other than be carried on the back of various other countries.....basically nothing ....

Oh I’m not defending the EU at all mate, I’m not polarised at all, I think Q1 was a disaster. I’d be critical of the EU. The U.K. have had a brilliant rollout, I’d wholly commend everyone in the NHS for it, I’ve worked in the NHS so won’t lie I might be biased. I’m also delighted for the U.K., they’ve been the worst hit country in Europe through all of this and if you had to pick one country in Jan you would have wanted things to go well in it was the U.K. I despise the nationalism around this, you will find in all my posts all I have done is given you the benefit of my knowledge and provided facts with sources and my knowledge to counter your position and you have retorted with nationalistic rhetoric.

What has Ireland done, https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-professor-oxford-vaccine-millions a British vaccine indeed. While also being one of the EUs biggest pharma producers, we have our fingers in every vaccine out there.
 
How many more times are we going to have this bloody debate about vaccines.

They aren’t British, they aren’t European, they aren’t American. Every single vaccine is multinational - whether that’s in their research, development or supply chain.

Also, who gives a toss?
A surprisingly large number of people it turns out to my surprise.

 
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A surprisingly large number of people it turns out to my surprise.


This story doesn’t touch on Pfizer not taking any of the US government’s Warp Speed money, which made it even funnier when they announced the results of their vaccine trial the week after the election. Like they were sticking the knife in the corrupt idiots who made a worldwide COVID outbreak possible.
 
That’s a lovely anti U.K. government piece, except for the fact that the U.K. government has no say in this. The vaccines are owned by Oxford and AZ, and they are getting it around the world as quickly as possible in spite of all the efforts of your mates in the EU to undermine it....
Incidentally Pete, you may remember that in 2016 the executives of the UK's pharma industry came out in opposition of Brexit, including the CEOs of both AZ and GSK.


So please don't pretend that you're a champion of them. Similarly, academia were all vocally opposed to Brexit, and not only were their views dismissed but they were told that we no longer need experts. You're no friend of the biotech industry.
 
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