Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Barnfred 55
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The SA variant cases are a concern, but the UK is exceptionally good at identifying these outbreaks and those cases contacts have already been traced and tested and are now on the radar. Plus they are now started surge testing in both areas with both types of test. The numbers, whilst described as significant, are still small enough to control through surge testing and TTI. As opening up of the economy is being done in stages and under a policy of mass testing, these mini outbreaks of the SA and Brazil variant will continue to be identified and controlled.
As regards yesterday's infection stats, you can't just look at these figures in daily isolation. You need to look at the 7 day trend to get a more accurate opinion, but you've been told this numerous times before haven't you Dave. There could be many reasons why this could just be a solitary exception to the overall trend, and you also need to look at the number of tests involved (the stats for this are not always upto date). It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there had been an upsurge in testing on the day before many kids returned to school after the Easter break, because many parents hadn't been following the 2 per week instructions. The 7 days trend is still down over 20% which is good news. Let's look at the stats over the next few days before jumping to conclusions.
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Barnfred 55
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That is true. But you were making out that the infection rate was going up. That's what you were quite rightly called out on.
jonnyboy316
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I see the US have now paused J &J due to a number of blood clotting cases in women
J&J paused in the states until tomorrow pending review by the FDA based on the thrombosis issue.
Barnfred 55
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They do a number of modelling suggestions based on different R rates. What we tend to see is what the media want to show us.
The truth is that the R rate is going to be incredibly difficult to predict as we're still waiting on the data from various vaccines and their effect on infection rates. Early data is that vaccinations do reduce infections. Hopefully the worst case scenarios will not happen, which isn't to say there won't be a surge in infections.
I've said before that we shouldn't be doing away with all SD rules until after all adults have been offered the jab, which is over a month later than the planned 21 June. This date is of course subject to data and I wouldn't be surprised if this were put back if infection rates were starting to surge by then.
arminisgod
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good to see, might stop all these bells marching when LeShaun gets murdered by some trigger happy cop in the states
tsubaki
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The SA variant cases are a concern, but the UK is exceptionally good at identifying these outbreaks and those cases contacts have already been traced and tested and are now on the radar. Plus they are now started surge testing in both areas with both types of test. The numbers, whilst described as significant, are still small enough to control through surge testing and TTI. As opening up of the economy is being done in stages and under a policy of mass testing, these mini outbreaks of the SA and Brazil variant will continue to be identified and controlled.
As regards yesterday's infection stats, you can't just look at these figures in daily isolation. You need to look at the 7 day trend to get a more accurate opinion, but you've been told this numerous times before haven't you Dave. There could be many reasons why this could just be a solitary exception to the overall trend, and you also need to look at the number of tests involved (the stats for this are not always upto date). It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there had been an upsurge in testing on the day before many kids returned to school after the Easter break, because many parents hadn't been following the 2 per week instructions. The 7 days trend is still down over 20% which is good news. Let's look at the stats over the next few days before jumping to conclusions.
TBF there is a lot of wishful thinking in that first paragraph. For a start, we don’t have a great record at picking up these outbreaks (as the history of our pandemic shows) or containing them.
I appreciate they’ve claimed to have traced all the contacts in this case but that really doesn’t square with them also telling everyone in Lambeth and Wandsworth to get tested as well.
Surge testing, and I speak as a Lambeth resident here, seems so far to consist of them saying on the news that us residents should get tested; there’s not been any extra effort to expand testing or to communicate it locally that I’ve seen in the area. It’s also a bit of a daft idea to restrict it to those two boroughs anyway, given that the boroughs have two of the busiest train stations in the entire country and large numbers of people passing through / working there / living and working in other boroughs as well.
grandjoeblue
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6 cases from 6.8m jabs? Quite low.
This might seem obvious but if the clotting tends to be women can't they continue jabbing men in the meantime?
Well that escalated quickly.
Barnfred 55
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Dave. I've said this to you before but you obviously don't give a toss about other people's well being.Cant believe this vaccine is still being used. It's negligence on a mass scale.
AstraZeneca blood clotting: what is this rare syndrome and how is it caused?
Evidence is growing of a link between the Covid-19 vaccine and a deadly thrombosis – and theories are emerging as to whywww.theguardian.com
The AZ vaccine is the principal vaccine we currently have available in this country. So far it's use has been estimated to have saved over 6000 lives. On the flip side there have been 19 deaths in this country linked to it's use. The risk/benefit assessment is not even close.
Around the country there will no doubt be many people, maybe dozens or even hundreds, who will refuse to get vaccinated, or refuse their second jab, because of all this concern over blood clotting, and will die as a result. Who knows, somebody on here may even make that fatal decision after reading one of the many posts you have made on the subject. Now that's what I call negligence. Negligence and ignorance, a deadly mix when combined and you have it in spadefuls.
Barnfred 55
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What do they mean by positivity rate exactly? How does that compare with our main measurement which is weekly positive tests per 100,000 population?
grandjoeblue
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About 1.2m tests where done in the UK on the 11th with 3500 testing positive. In California from 1.2m tests they would get around 18,000 positives.
Our positivity rate is very low. Much lower than anywhere in the USA I believe. Edit: saying that somewhere remote like Alaska might be lower.
Barnfred 55
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He's very good at picking out the few articles and stats that confirm his agenda, whilst ignoring the overwhelming majority that don't lol
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