No its not but then there isnt a right argument.
There's sinners and losers in everything in life.
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No its not but then there isnt a right argument.
There's sinners and losers in everything in life.
What do you mean by "do we need it"?
It was a joke mate.
Sorry. I'm in a bad mood tonight for obvious reasons and there is quite a lot of anti-London sentiment going around (not necessarily on the forum, just in general). I'm a proud Scouser but I've lived in London for over 20 years and love this city too.
189 Dutch tourists arrived on the island(Rhodes) this evening as an experiment.The locals are going FFFIN Ape lol We can't even get to a beach for a swim.
www.ctvnews.ca
Dutch tourists trade lockdown at home for Greek resort confinement
Almost 200 Dutch tourists traded lockdown in the Netherlands for eight days of voluntary confinement in a Greek beach resort, as part of a test to see if safe holidays can be arranged during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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That's great news
It is, after a decent start (especially as the state was the first in US with community spread) we had a bit of a dodgy summer and frankly a bad Dec and Jan but things seem back on track.
June 15th the state plans to fully reopen so cross fingers that vaccine uptake/supply is good and variants don’t throw a curve ball.
Unfortunately midwest isn’t looking too good and a few red flags in Florida and Texas
U.K. variant isn't linked to more severe disease or death, study finds
The variant known as B.1.1.7 is now the dominant coronavirus strain in Europe and the U.S. Scientists say there is still much to learn about the more contagious virus.
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Scientists are struggling to pin down the nature of the U.K. variant, which has become the dominant strain across Europe and, as of last week, in the United States. Chief among the questions: Is the variant more deadly?
The study, published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, looked at data from last fall in the U.K., shortly after the variant was first detected. It soon spread rapidly, eventually becoming the dominant strain circulating in the country.
The new findings add to scientists' ever-evolving understanding of the U.K. variant, known as B.1.1.7, at a crucial time in the pandemic, as it and other variants are circulating widely in other countries.
Researchers looked at Covid-19 patients who were admitted to University College London Hospital and North Middlesex University Hospital from Nov. 9 to Dec. 20. The scientists sequenced virus samples from 341 patients, finding that 58 percent were positive for the U.K. variant and that 42 percent had been infected with a different strain.
The researchers then compared the severity of symptoms between the two groups and found that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant were not at increased risk of becoming severely ill or dying. The study zeroed in on a time when the U.K. variant was just gaining a foothold in London — and as the U.K.'s vaccination program was getting underway.
"We were able to do this real-time analysis because we were in the eye of the storm," said a lead author of the study, Dan Frampton, a bioinformatician at University College London.The study found that samples from patients with the B.1.1.7 variant had greater quantities of virus, or higher "viral loads," but it is not yet clear why.
"One idea for why this variant is more transmissible could be that patients are making more virus," Frampton said.
He said that while the researchers did not find an association between the U.K. variant and the severity of illness, patients hospitalized with the B.1.1.7 variant at the time were more likely to be under age 60 and from ethnic minority backgrounds.
Patients with B.1.1.7 were also more likely to be given oxygen. Frampton said that was not necessarily an indication of more severe disease and that more research is needed."There's clearly a lot of interesting stuff to look into," he said. "We're in a much better position now to start studying what appear to be small results and go into more detail to flesh the picture out more.”
I think this was the initial takeaway of the UK variant wasn't it? It was more virulent but not necessarily more deadly. Sadly a more virulent strain will result in more deaths as more people will be infected.People infected with the more contagious coronavirus variant first identified in the United Kingdom did not experience more severe symptoms and were not at higher risk of death, according to a new study published Monday.U.K. variant isn't linked to more severe disease or death, study finds
The variant known as B.1.1.7 is now the dominant coronavirus strain in Europe and the U.S. Scientists say there is still much to learn about the more contagious virus.
Scientists are struggling to pin down the nature of the U.K. variant, which has become the dominant strain across Europe and, as of last week, in the United States. Chief among the questions: Is the variant more deadly?
The study, published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, looked at data from last fall in the U.K., shortly after the variant was first detected. It soon spread rapidly, eventually becoming the dominant strain circulating in the country.
The new findings add to scientists' ever-evolving understanding of the U.K. variant, known as B.1.1.7, at a crucial time in the pandemic, as it and other variants are circulating widely in other countries.
Researchers looked at Covid-19 patients who were admitted to University College London Hospital and North Middlesex University Hospital from Nov. 9 to Dec. 20. The scientists sequenced virus samples from 341 patients, finding that 58 percent were positive for the U.K. variant and that 42 percent had been infected with a different strain.
The researchers then compared the severity of symptoms between the two groups and found that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant were not at increased risk of becoming severely ill or dying. The study zeroed in on a time when the U.K. variant was just gaining a foothold in London — and as the U.K.'s vaccination program was getting underway.
"We were able to do this real-time analysis because we were in the eye of the storm," said a lead author of the study, Dan Frampton, a bioinformatician at University College London.The study found that samples from patients with the B.1.1.7 variant had greater quantities of virus, or higher "viral loads," but it is not yet clear why.
"One idea for why this variant is more transmissible could be that patients are making more virus," Frampton said.
He said that while the researchers did not find an association between the U.K. variant and the severity of illness, patients hospitalized with the B.1.1.7 variant at the time were more likely to be under age 60 and from ethnic minority backgrounds.
Patients with B.1.1.7 were also more likely to be given oxygen. Frampton said that was not necessarily an indication of more severe disease and that more research is needed."There's clearly a lot of interesting stuff to look into," he said. "We're in a much better position now to start studying what appear to be small results and go into more detail to flesh the picture out more.”
There was originally worry that it was both although as you say the transmission itself leads fo an increase in mortality
Coronavirus: UK variant 'may be more deadly' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55768627
Mr Johnson told a Downing Street briefing: "In addition to spreading more quickly, it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant - the variant that was first identified in London and the south east - may be associated with a higher degree of mortality.
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Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, described the data so far as "not yet strong".
He said: "I want to stress that there's a lot of uncertainty around these numbers and we need more work to get a precise handle on it, but it obviously is a concern that this has an increase in mortality as well as an increase in transmissibility."
We’ve lost a lot of wonderful people to Covid 
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Topol goes on about Michigan like it was some horrific foul-up, but I disagree. If it takes five weeks to be fully vaccinated on a two-shot regime, and supply only really kicked in recently, then unfortunately a lot of this increase was bound to happen anyway. Just one of those spots where the variant won the race.
As for Texas, most of those red and maroon counties have hardly anyone in them and they are surely the type of people who think this is all a giant LIBRUL MEDIUH HOAX and wouldn’t get a jab anyway.
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Unfortunately agree, increasing vaccine supply to those Michigan areas (assuming uptake) would make a difference in the long term but absent it being used in combination with NPIs like stopping indoor dining and increased mask use you’d still see quite a lot of the case rise - exponential growth is darn powerful.
Will admit I’m not clear on what is happening with Texas, overall state numbers seem OK but a very localized outbreak in the northern area - any idea @BlueTX ?
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