Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Mrk]

“She said the tough measures that have been in place for nearly two months were “what’s keeping the cases down at the moment – it’s not the vaccination”.

So either, she is completely out of date or she said this a while ago or she’s talking about someone other than the U.K. and the Guardian are taking liberties......

Nearly two months lol

God love the Guardian - maths has never been their strong point.

 

[Goat]

Senior WHO expert saying that UK Covid19 cases are being kept down by lockdown not the vaccine roll out. And the still significant number of daily cases w=ill be the more likely source of any surge we see in this country rather than it coming in from Europe.

UK Covid cases could rise again despite vaccine progress – WHO official

Exclusive: Dr Catherine Smallwood says there is potential for rise unconnected to increases in Europe

www.theguardian.com

“The population groups that are really driving transmission are still in the majority sense the ones that have not yet been vaccinated as a whole,” Smallwood said. “Transmission can still happen in the UK without any washing up on the shores of the European outbreak.”



Due to the people who are mainly transmitting have not had the vaccine.

We can cope with surges on positive tests, as long as they don't result in hospital admission surges.

As we open up we are most likely going to see an increase in cases, the proof will be whether we see an increase elsewhere, time will tell.

 

[Goat]

The World Needs the Not-for-Profit AstraZeneca Vaccine, Minus the AstraZeneca Drama

A series of unforced errors by the British pharma company has turned hope into hesitancy.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 45 deaths were announced today, the same total as yesterday and 6 down on last Thursday. 34 deaths were in English hospitals, down 8 on yesterday and down 9 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 34.71

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 53 deaths were announced today, up 8 on yesterday and up 2 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average rises slightly to 30.86

For the 60 day cut off, 85 deaths were announced today, down 61 on yesterday and down 3 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average falls to an even 68

 

[peteblue]

You wouldn’t believe the stuff we are being asked to do by the council and Fire Safety people in order to open up in an outside space and the observance of what is and is not an enclosed area....



page after page of diagrams and measurements...etc, etc, etc......

Then we get onto the four pages of fire safety rules for the use of a marquee.

I even read one proposal to have a different member of staff to look after each table...we are a small village pub but have 30 outdoor tables.

They put all this out under the heading of help and advice.....might just as well set fire to the place and build houses....

 

[davek]

“She said the tough measures that have been in place for nearly two months were “what’s keeping the cases down at the moment – it’s not the vaccination”.

So either, she is completely out of date or she said this a while ago or she’s talking about someone other than the U.K. and the Guardian are taking liberties......

That's the Guardian.

But that does not detract from the main point: the virus is responding to the extended lockdown but the stubbornness of the daily cases will provide the seedbed for any summer surge, not (as per the murderer's claims) anything coming into the country from Europe.

 

[Neiler]

First reported, case of rare clotting here post AZ vaccine, 50 year old female.

 

[toffeepie1878]

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Here's a few FACTS for you .

1.1 million with Long Covid in the UK and guess what most of them arnt old aged.
Absolutely wicked , disabilitating and non discriminate disease that you keep refering to as a form of flu , do you know anyone with Long Flu ?

You just keep peddling your crap.
Come back with real facts.

1. People lost family members to the flu, diabetes, dementia meningitis and many other diseases through the years, tens and tens of thousands - 51 thousand died of the flu in England and wales in 2018 - check the PHE statistics. and that is just January.

Where was all the scaremongering? should we take a minutes silence now

2. Not even 400 people who were not ill over over 60 died from covid from 70 million, the figure is more like 380 people - why on earth do people need unapproved jabs issued under a NDA? Han.cock is covered but anyone else is not. This delightful chap also took home over 1 million from the track and trace fiasco, himself and the Government are just making idiots of everyone, like on here

3. Over 150 thousand died of the flu from 2015 to 2019 and there was none of this nonsense - Goodison park was full every other week and shopping malls were actually a thing

4. Nightingale Hospital, purposely built for covid but unused, contrary to popular belief by another poster its not a pub and closed for lockdown, its just not taken up with covid patients

Wake up covid is over. Snap out of it and get out of the bubble you lot are in

It looks like the covid jab revolt is in full swing, but its ok, keep up with the middle fingers

 

[davek]

“The population groups that are really driving transmission are still in the majority sense the ones that have not yet been vaccinated as a whole,” Smallwood said. “Transmission can still happen in the UK without any washing up on the shores of the European outbreak.”



Due to the people who are mainly transmitting have not had the vaccine.

We can cope with surges on positive tests, as long as they don't result in hospital admission surges.

As we open up we are most likely going to see an increase in cases, the proof will be whether we see an increase elsewhere, time will tell.

The bigger picture is that surges in Covid19 cases will help give rise to another VOC and we could have a UK Virus MkII on our hands going into the autumn and winter.

Minimize that possibility by delaying opening up the country until all adults who want the jab have had it. Break the chain of transmission.

How is that not the way we're going if we really want to see a successful reopening of society and avoid a massive surge and lockdown?

 

[Goat]

The bigger picture is that surges in Covid19 cases will help give rise to another VOC and we could have a UK Virus MkII on our hands going into the autumn and winter.

Minimize that possibility by delaying opening up the country until all adults who want the jab have had it. Break the chain of transmission.

How is that not the way we're going if we really want to see a successful reopening of society and avoid a massive surge and lockdown?

Cos after 5 months nobody can be arsed dealing with lockdowns while we are kicking this viruses arse.

But you know that.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Nearly two months lol

God love the Guardian - maths has never been their strong point.

Neither has the truth

 

[peteblue]

The bigger picture is that surges in Covid19 cases will help give rise to another VOC and we could have a UK Virus MkII on our hands going into the autumn and winter.

Minimize that possibility by delaying opening up the country until all adults who want the jab have had it. Break the chain of transmission.

How is that not the way we're going if we really want to see a successful reopening of society and avoid a massive surge and lockdown?

I checked our numbers earlier, we have between 0-2 people with Covid in a 30 square mile area and have had for a little while now. Meanwhile towns and villages, shops and pubs are all in lockdown and all at risk groups have had at least one dose of vaccine. I don’t dismiss Covid, it’s effects or it’s transmission, but there has to be an end, and we are pretty well there tbh......

 

[davek]

Cos after 5 months nobody can be arsed dealing with lockdowns while we are kicking this viruses arse.

But you know that.

So we cant hang on another 2 months to avoid another catastrophe?

Ok.

 

[davek]

I checked our numbers earlier, we have between 0-2 people with Covid in a 30 square mile area and have had for a little while now. Meanwhile towns and villages, shops and pubs are all in lockdown and all at risk groups have had at least one dose of vaccine. I don’t dismiss Covid, it’s effects or it’s transmission, but there has to be an end, and we are pretty well there tbh......

You live amongst a handful of peasants.

It's really not the same as being in a huge conurbation.

 

[whiteshadow]

Fair enough, I must have got that mixed up. I'm sure I've seen that weaker variants tend to dominate as they don't kill the host and adapt to spread more.

That's normally true but not so much with covid as people are most infectious before they are symptomatic so from a transmission point of view the virus is under no disadvantage if it's more virulent.

Normally if a virus kills it's host quickly it's making itself harder to transmit, especially if it's main point of transmission is when people are symptomatic, as people will isolate, but if it's main method of transmission is before people are symptomatic then it's at no evolutionary disadvantage if it isn't weaker.