Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I'm sorry but the "Variante Anglaise" is proving both very infectious and very potent in France. (and Belgium and Germany)

Over 46k new cases yesterday here in France;
of which- 81,4% new "english" variante. 8,1% Brazil/S.African

505 new patients in ICUs and over 100% ICU occupancy nationwide.

The "herd" is not just UK, not out of this until the world achieves herd immunity.
Don't relax too soon, Keep safe.

I don’t think we are getting complacent anymore. We are slowly unlocking after several months of severe restrictions. The government have been clear in their messaging that there could be a 3rd wave and that further unlocking will be dependent on meeting key criteria. I am a negative Niall by nature but there is good reason for optimism re the UK situation. Not just with the speed of the vaccine roll out but also the genomic sequencing. International travel/holidays forget about it for 2021 as far as I am concerned but a somewhat normal Domestic summer in the UK looks possible.
 
But, and it's a BIG BUT, Oxfotd and AZ have made their covid vaccine an exception to this rule. Their have offered production under license worldwide for free, their only stipulation being that they produce the vaccine at cost.

Wonder why there aren't that many takers?
Whose cost?
 
So you are saying Johnson should have put the army in a security ring around London. Physically barricading it and stopping people entering or leaving. Like Chinese did in Wigan. Behave. He'd have been lynched
No, just put it on level 4 like other cities in the North.
 
They didn't know it was a new variant then in fairness. I agree with what your saying by the way. But the way your post was written it was like we knowingly exposed the world to the English variant
They sort of did....

6 JANUARY 2021

How the UK lost control of the mutant strain of Covid-19​

In July, scientific advisers warned of the potential for a significant coronavirus variant to occur in the winter. But instead of preparing for the worst, the government created the ideal conditions for the virus to mutate – and thrive.

Phil Whitaker.



.....In July, the government’s scientific advisory group Sage warned of the potential for a clinically significant mutation to occur during the winter. At the same time, the shadow group Independent Sage repeatedly urged the Johnson administration to take advantage of the summer hiatus to change its policy to a “zero Covid” strategy. This could have driven infection rates into the ground. Instead, we got “Eat Out to Help Out” and the progressive easing of restrictions that allowed daily case numbers to continue in four figures right into the autumn, pump priming the inevitable second wave. With countless billions of viral replications now occurring every day, the chance of advantageous mutations arising is high – far higher than in countries such as Taiwan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand, where “zero Covid” policies have kept case numbers, and hence viral replications, at tiny levels. And our ailing TTI system, incapable of aggressive suppression of outbreaks, helped create conditions in which any new strain could start to flourish.
It was certainly bad luck that the VOC arose in the UK; there are many other countries with similarly compromised approaches to the pandemic. South Africa appears to have incubated an even more infectious variant, 501.V2, with a greater degree of structural change to the spike protein targeted by extant vaccines. But, like all “accidents”, the VOC wasn’t purely a freak occurrence. With its failure to heed warnings about quite how rapidly and seriously the Covid pandemic could change, the Johnson government has been caught playing with fire. As a consequence, we, and now the rest of the world, are going to get burned.

 
They sort of did....

6 JANUARY 2021

How the UK lost control of the mutant strain of Covid-19​

In July, scientific advisers warned of the potential for a significant coronavirus variant to occur in the winter. But instead of preparing for the worst, the government created the ideal conditions for the virus to mutate – and thrive.

Phil Whitaker.



.....In July, the government’s scientific advisory group Sage warned of the potential for a clinically significant mutation to occur during the winter. At the same time, the shadow group Independent Sage repeatedly urged the Johnson administration to take advantage of the summer hiatus to change its policy to a “zero Covid” strategy. This could have driven infection rates into the ground. Instead, we got “Eat Out to Help Out” and the progressive easing of restrictions that allowed daily case numbers to continue in four figures right into the autumn, pump priming the inevitable second wave. With countless billions of viral replications now occurring every day, the chance of advantageous mutations arising is high – far higher than in countries such as Taiwan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand, where “zero Covid” policies have kept case numbers, and hence viral replications, at tiny levels. And our ailing TTI system, incapable of aggressive suppression of outbreaks, helped create conditions in which any new strain could start to flourish.
It was certainly bad luck that the VOC arose in the UK; there are many other countries with similarly compromised approaches to the pandemic. South Africa appears to have incubated an even more infectious variant, 501.V2, with a greater degree of structural change to the spike protein targeted by extant vaccines. But, like all “accidents”, the VOC wasn’t purely a freak occurrence. With its failure to heed warnings about quite how rapidly and seriously the Covid pandemic could change, the Johnson government has been caught playing with fire. As a consequence, we, and now the rest of the world, are going to get burned.

There is a difference between knowing something could happen and establishing something has happened Dave.

But you already know that.
 
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