But we never did this for the Flu etc. No one in the world predicted this could happen. Majority of viruses that spring up are either too deadly to spread far wide (SARS, Ebola) or not deadly enough to trouble the world (numerous flu strains over the years).
Covid has fallen into that rare middle group of being potentially deadly but not deadly enough to easily prevent spreading.
I know this argument is heading back to your track and trace stance but we may never get another virus like this for another 200+ years and quite frankly Western population won't ever take to it.
Which is why hospitality like eating and drinking establishments should be outdoor only this summer. As soon as people are allowed indoors then we'll see a rapid increase in infection from those activities. Masks cant be used and customers and staff are locked in for hours in mostly poorly ventilated environments.
It's the type of decision that should be a no brainer in any sensible conclusion concerning what's possible the hospitality sector, but the Tory Death Cult work for the business owners, not the general population.
yeah gyms opening on the 12th too but the hygiene regulations they’re having to adhere too probably make the risk of transmission as low as they can be inside
I didn't realise either but my missus works part time for the National Trust doing holiday let changeovers and she recently went back to work getting the properties ready for the 12th. She works with 2 students who told her they are getting tested twice weekly. If they're doing it down here they'll be doing it everywhere surely?
So you really thought this time in 2019 that the following year we would all be in a worldwide lockdown?
Come of it man lol
Its like saying "I predicted that asteroid crashing into us" yes its a possibility but not one person forseen a pandemic this large happening effecting virtually every country on the planet.
yeah gyms opening on the 12th too but the hygiene regulations they’re having to adhere too probably make the risk of transmission as low as they can be inside
Not against gyms opening Toff and I accept they'll be taking every precaution, but the fact remains it's still indoors. At least they are usually well ventilated which will help
On the radio just now, after a year of this crap, only 50% of the uk population know the three main symptoms of Coronavirus. And only 1 in 5 would book a test if feeling unwell. Unreal.
Yes he's a right wing free market capitalist, product of the mega banks.
Present crisis is due to him ignoring scientific advice for a clamp down in January.
Reason, money and wealth before health. The economy had suffered enough so he believed.
Rather like Johnson refusing to lock down London when he was locking down provincial cities.
Lack of action that led to the mutation now causing havoc in continental Europe.
After being full of optimism a month ago, I’m now getting a bit fidgety about our booking for Greece in September. Numbers there at record levels, and this with a lockdown and outdoor mask wearing I believe. No idea how their vaccination programme is going.
So you really thought this time in 2019 that the following year we would all be in a worldwide lockdown?
Come of it man lol
Its like saying "I predicted that asteroid crashing into us" yes its a possibility but not one person forseen a pandemic this large happening effecting virtually every country on the planet.
Given that people actually risk assessed it, ranked it as the top ranked risk in the UK risk register and produced pandemic and communicable disease plans - yes I think we can say that people were aware of it and actively prepared for it.
And given that the emergency planning framework in the UK puts a statutory duty on identified organisations to prepare for, practice, warn and inform public about assessed risks - we know it happened.
The International Health Regulations (IHR) require all World Health Organisation member states to meet specific standards for detecting, reporting on, and responding to outbreaks likely to lead to a pandemic.
They have occured widely before, so it's not an entirely unknown event, and the learning from those past events is that they increase mortality, they cause economic harm, they cause political, social and economic instability - all known impacts.
(I'm not going to bother listing the many examples).
Did I expect it to happen on 2020 - no. Was it a possiblity - yes. Was it predicted to be as devastating as it has been - yes.
On the radio just now, after a year of this crap, only 50% of the uk population know the three main symptoms of Coronavirus. And only 1 in 5 would book a test if feeling unwell. Unreal.
Which is why hospitality like eating and drinking establishments should be outdoor only this summer. As soon as people are allowed indoors then we'll see a rapid increase in infection from those activities. Masks cant be used and customers and staff are locked in for hours in mostly poorly ventilated environments.
It's the type of decision that should be a no brainer in any sensible conclusion concerning what's possible the hospitality sector, but the Tory Death Cult work for the business owners, not the general population.
It's a difficult one to apply in the UK given how poorly implemented T&T is.
There is sense in saying, as you have above, that outside only is the best option and on one hand I'm inclined to agree.
However, the risk has to be balanced against the financial need (there are many reasons why - economic & health).
It is very frustrating to consistently hear that it has to be one or the other - it doesn't.
You can; if you use your lockdown effectively, if you reduce the rate sufficiently and if you have widespread public adherence, open things to the public using track and trace to focus on hot spots - Australia is a great example of this working (yes I know it's not like for like).
But I think we've boxed ourselves into a position where the public belief is that the only options are to rationalise more deaths as unfortunate collateral or lockdown indefinitely.
