Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Mutzo Nutzo]

They have some ground to make up on the UK in that respect.

It shows me that Germany, France and the EU in general have turned their vaccine program into a complete cake and arse party.

 

[davek]

It shows me that Germany, France and the EU in general have turned their vaccine program into a complete cake and arse party.

It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. No country can be safe while all others are not vaccinated.

Look what's going to happen in the next few weeks with thousands of hauliers coming in here from Europe and not having to quarantine, when much of their nations are under lockdown with the UK Virus rampant.

This country hasn't vaccinated even half of its population. It's little wonder puppets like Whitty, Van tam and Vallance are trying to get their excuses in early by revealing their expectations of a summer surge in cases here.

 

[jinkyali]

It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. No country can be safe while all others are not vaccinated.

Look what's going to happen in the next few weeks with thousands of hauliers coming in here from Europe and not having to quarantine, when much of their nations are under lockdown with the UK Virus rampant.

This country hasn't vaccinated even half of its population. It's little wonder puppets like Whitty, Van tam and Vallance are trying to get their excuses in early by revealing their expectations of a summer surge in cases here.

Thousands of hauliers come here every day and have been for months.

 

[davek]

Do you have the figures to back up your 'only 1% of people landing in the UK are quarantining' claims?

I'm in a group on Facebook - more for news than anything else - called Excluded UK. There are 3m people, as an estimate, who have been excluded from government support. Whether they're a freelancer, a plumber or run their own full office of staff, it's still an independent 'business' that has been hit very hard and yes, a lot of them have gone under.

I'd be pretty bloody surprised if, as a direct or indirect result of COVID, there isn't going to be 1000s of businesses gone one way or the other.

It's not the end of the world - people can bounce back, do different things, but still, you shouldn't just be so flippant.

Who are the millions of Britons not working, and why?

About a quarter of the working age population - those aged 16 to 64 - do not currently have a job.

www.bbc.co.uk

Predictions are that it could rise to 6% unemployment rate by the end of 2021 - or 2.2m people.

Who is becoming unemployed?​

Workers in hospitality, retail and entertainment have been badly hit. These jobs have seen the biggest impact from Covid restrictions.
They also employ large numbers of young people, who have borne the brunt of job losses.
Figures for the number of people on company payrolls show the impact clearly.
Since the crisis began, 693,000 payroll jobs have disappeared, including 368,000 in hotels, restaurants and pubs, and 123,000 in shops.
During the pandemic more nearly two-thirds of the fall in the number of employees has been among the under-25s.

According to the article, furlough has helped protect 11m jobs. But there's still been nearly 700,000 (and it will be more by the year's end) lost.

Yes. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/quarantine-hotel-2/104753/

So furlough has saved the vast majority of jobs? And it's hundreds not thousands of businesses going to the wall? (we were talking about hospitality).

 

[davek]

Thousands of hauliers come here every day and have been for months.

In a lockdown.

 

[jinkyali]

In a lockdown.

Its hardly been lock down tho eh.
Plus I can't imagine how the life of a haulier is going to change too much once lockdown ends.

Get your second jab and you won't need to worry bout it.

 

[BlueToff]

Yes. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/quarantine-hotel-2/104753/

So furlough has saved the vast majority of jobs? And it's hundreds not thousands of businesses going to the wall? (we were talking about hospitality).

That's not what you claimed, you claimed only 1% were quarantining, you didn't specify that it was in the hotels.

That was also a month ago, so I'm sure it has changed.

Okay, hundreds of hospitality businesses, thousands of jobs. Makes it all better, doesn't it.

 

[Paris]

What we're seeing on the continent gives reason to think that we should keep our borders closed until around the 28 October

 

[jonnyboy316]

J&J taking some of the heat off AZ

 

[Barnfred 55]

I'm not worked up about it really (them meeting), I just can't see how we can have scenes genuinely akin to festivals and not think that there'll be a rise in cases.

But a rise in cases doesn't necessarily mean a rise in hospitalisations.

I know they were outside and most seemed to be adhering to rule of 6 and stuff, and I don't blame anybody for doing it. I just also know that 1000s of people in a park is still gonna probably result in a spike. I don't think we can fully compare last summer in terms of cases because we weren't testing as much then.

But, like I said, I'm hoping that it won't equate to a rise in hospitalisations.

I'm guessing (looking at the scenes in Nottingham) that the majority not social distancing were students and we've been testing students twice weekly for weeks now. Unless they've been breaking self isolation there shouldn't be much risk from them. There'll be more risk from shops and hair/beauty salons opening I'd have thought. Are gyms opening on the 12th too?

 

[Barnfred 55]

I know mate, but that's why I stressed about the testing. We're testing a lot more now than we were - for example, that place I do 2 days work a week are introducing mandatory weekly testing (you can sign up for it). Last summer that amount of testing wasn't in place. We were testing, what, 700,000 people a day at one point last month?

I just think we'll see a spike inside the next 2 weeks. It's also what Whitty and Valance have warned too, that there's gonna be a spike whenever things open up. But, there's clearly a level of acceptance around that and I imagine they have a certain threshold based on hospitalisations.

Again, I don't blame people for doing what they did yesterday or today cause it was bloody lovely and it's got to happen at some point. I just would be very pleasantly surprised if we don't see a rise in cases. But even if that is the case, hopefully the vaccine roll out keeps any hopsitalisations very low.

Last month we averaged 1.5m tests a day on school days. The highest was over 1.8m. It dropped to around 700k of a weekend.

Amazing really.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Arsed.

Thanks for that heartfelt contribution Dave. The millions who could lose their jobs send their regards

 

[grandjoeblue]

It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. No country can be safe while all others are not vaccinated.

Look what's going to happen in the next few weeks with thousands of hauliers coming in here from Europe and not having to quarantine, when much of their nations are under lockdown with the UK Virus rampant.

This country hasn't vaccinated even half of its population. It's little wonder puppets like Whitty, Van tam and Vallance are trying to get their excuses in early by revealing their expectations of a summer surge in cases here.

I thought you rate Whitty now that you found a comment of his saying that vaccines won't solve the problem?

Struggling to keep up.

 

[Charro]

Arsed.

Amazing.

Again, and what about the millions of people that will be out of work?

You bad tory.

 

[BlueToff]

I'm guessing (looking at the scenes in Nottingham) that the majority not social distancing were students and we've been testing students twice weekly for weeks now. Unless they've been breaking self isolation there shouldn't be much risk from them. There'll be more risk from shops and hair/beauty salons opening I'd have thought. Are gyms opening on the 12th too?

I don’t think we’ve been testing uni students?

yeah gyms opening on the 12th too but the hygiene regulations they’re having to adhere too probably make the risk of transmission as low as they can be inside