Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Personally I believe they should bring the indoor opening of pubs forward to the 12th April otherwise you will have groups who are having a few pints in the outdoor garden then it gets a bit cold and they end up having a house party with very little social distancing etc. If the pubs open properly its a more controlled environment.

This...the virus is spread in various settings but pubs are not one of them....
 
Personally I believe they should bring the indoor opening of pubs forward to the 12th April otherwise you will have groups who are having a few pints in the outdoor garden then it gets a bit cold and they end up having a house party with very little social distancing etc. If the pubs open properly its a more controlled environment.
...or just dont open them at all until the warmer weather. Then keep it all outdoor service only.

That's what would happen if we really wanted to keep a lid in the virus. Unfortunately, businesses wanted their way and the government has handed it to them.
 
Not in full swing Dave. They will be following social distancing rules, table service only, rule of 6, wearing mask when moving inside etc etc. Not full swing at all.
We sa what happened with that last summer in the drink and food sector. They just cant do it. It;'s not possible to contain the virus indoors. Eat out to help out is now universally accepted to have fanned the flames of mass infection.
 
...or just dont open them at all until the warmer weather. Then keep it all outdoor service only.

That's what would happen if we really wanted to keep a lid in the virus. Unfortunately, businesses wanted their way and the government has handed it to them.

People are already cracking. House parties and gatherings are happening across the UK every weekend now. The pubs need to open as soon as possible in order to save lives.
 
We sa what happened with that last summer in the drink and food sector. They just cant do it. It;'s not possible to contain the virus indoors. Eat out to help out is now universally accepted to have fanned the flames of mass infection.
Not as much as when University students went back and started mixing house party style.
Cases were low and flat July and August.
With the majority vaccinated (with proven effective vaccines), this summer should be better.
 
The naivety in this post is frightening.

You literally have no idea about how the vaccines will help the situation in the face of a full assault on people of another cretinous British summer of consumerism and "leisure" and old normal activity.

The vaccines aren't a panacea. How many times does that need repeating? Every single person in the scientific community is imploring us to exercise caution. The vaccines are meant to hand us the opportunity to get back some social contact and some freedom of movement, but not to return to mass shopping expeditions, beaches full of tools roaming about in packs; ale houses overflowing with bar flies; restaurants having customers in there for hour upon hour in close proximity with a window open for air circulation...etc etc.

This country cant do discipline. It's incapable. We see that every day now with the taking to the streets of one lot of belters after another demanding their freedom to get pissed and spew up in the gutter and circulate a virus.

But that's why we're opening up phase by phase?
 
...or just dont open them at all until the warmer weather. Then keep it all outdoor service only.

That's what would happen if we really wanted to keep a lid in the virus. Unfortunately, businesses wanted their way and the government has handed it to them.
It's 22 degrees tomorrow ffs
 
The UK has got 30m people with at least some protection. 3.5-4m with as much protection as is currently viable. That number is gonna double probably inside the next 4 weeks.

I'd argue that the evidence is already there that the strategy has paid off. Millions and millions that wouldn't even have had their first dose, have now got a fair chunk of protection. And that'll help keep the virus at bay.

As we're seeing on the continent, just having the most vulnerable fully vaccinated doesn't really mean a great deal if loads of the general population haven't, because the virus has still got room to spread and do real damage - not just make people mildly ill which is what even the first dose shows evidence of ensuring.
 
...or just dont open them at all until the warmer weather. Then keep it all outdoor service only.

That's what would happen if we really wanted to keep a lid in the virus. Unfortunately, businesses wanted their way and the government has handed it to them.
I don't think that they need to wait for it to warm up, from around the start of April the sun starts giving us vitiman D, they should be encouraging people to be outdoors as much as possible from now, don't underestimate the power of Vit D on the human immune system, we dont get it over winter even if it's a sunny day.
Everyone out now, fresh air and sunlight free of charge for everyone. Vitality important both physically and mentally.
 
...or just dont open them at all until the warmer weather. Then keep it all outdoor service only.

That's what would happen if we really wanted to keep a lid in the virus. Unfortunately, businesses wanted their way and the government has handed it to them.

That would effectively keep roughly 60000 pubs that have no provision for outside drinking, shut forever.

Earth to Dave, come in.
 
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